Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge

[Pete Keane]

In relation to the original post, Ox & Bucks does look most promising.

[scrimnet]

So not the Boer war then....

I'm still going to go for earlier rather then later. The size of the Ich Dien typeface and thinness of line above it are swaying me that way.

Were the Home Guard attached to a specific local regiment (if so i assume it would be the 6th Bn, Home Duties?) or were they autonamous, I havent started looking for them yet !

From 3 Aug 1940 County Regt badges were authorised for use by local HG units...

6th bn Home Duties are not HG, they are part of the "normal" Regt.

TBH The badge is rather un dateable other than the dates given, as it didn't change at all, apart from the short lived 1915 all brass economy issue,and the just as short lived 1943 plastic economy issue...

[Pete Keane]

So I would be right in thinking that the Home Guard were an autonomous organisation, who adopted the badge of the local regiment in which they were based, but were not part of that regiment.

Did they have a shoulder flash (or similar) which denoted them as Home Guard.

The economy badge, thats brown & brown as opposed to differing bi-metal colours?

Although I can see that the badges are virtually the same for each period, there are minor differences in lettering size, thickness of certain details etc. I have put this down to them being from different manufacturers, and I have also come across some reproduction badges.

The badge in the photo has been very well polished and has lost a fair amount of detail, were the medals likewise so well polished?

Scrimnet, if by any chance you have details of 2nd Bn movements from arrival in India I would be most grateful, they appear to be swallowed up and then re-appera in February 1945 (Irrawaddy Crossing) where they are described as 'newly arrived'! Very little info. on the net and even less in print, and Prestons a long way for me to go...

Regards

Pete.

[Salford Lass]

Hi Guys

Still looking into this one, Pete reading your last post, we have no medals lol, so wouldn't know if they were polished or not (highley I mean).

We have gone back a generation and am now looking at other possibles, but I still think its WW2.

If I find anything I will post it here.

Debbie

[scrimnet]

So I would be right in thinking that the Home Guard were an autonomous organisation, who adopted the badge of the local regiment in which they were based, but were not part of that regiment.

Did they have a shoulder flash (or similar) which denoted them as Home Guard.

The economy badge, thats brown & brown as opposed to differing bi-metal colours?

Although I can see that the badges are virtually the same for each period, there are minor differences in lettering size, thickness of certain details etc. I have put this down to them being from different manufacturers, and I have also come across some reproduction badges.

The badge in the photo has been very well polished and has lost a fair amount of detail, were the medals likewise so well polished?

Scrimnet, if by any chance you have details of 2nd Bn movements from arrival in India I would be most grateful, they appear to be swallowed up and then re-appera in February 1945 (Irrawaddy Crossing) where they are described as 'newly arrived'! Very little info. on the net and even less in print, and Prestons a long way for me to go...

Regards

Pete.

Yes the HG were quite autonomous...

Yes, I have oodles of variants on the Northamptonshire cap badge,  and a lot of them are from differing makers and molds.

I could be Boer War...I did a typo earlier with the 1902...   I have corrected to 1898

Some repros are actually not...A lot of Regts in India had locally sourced and made items from the "choggie shops"...

As for the movements of 2 SLancs,

Here's what I have...

        1939             Bombay  
   
     1940.June    UK    29 Inf Bde

     1942.Mar.21    at sea    29 Bde, Force 121

     1942.Apr.22    South Africa    29 Bde, Force 121

     1942.Apr.28    at sea    29 Bde, Force 121

     1942.May.05    Madagascar    29 Bde, Force 121

     1942.Aug.20    at sea    

     1942.Aug.26    East Africa    29 Bde, Force 121

     1942.Sept.05    at sea    

     1942.Sept.10    Madagascar    29 Bde, Force 121

     1942.Oct.16    at sea    29 Bde

     1942.Ocy.24    South Africa    29 Bde

     1943.Jan.08    at sea    

     1943.Jan.26    India    

     1944.April    Burma    7 Ind Div

     1945            UK    

     1946           Malta
   
     1947           Trieste    

[Pete Keane]

Thanks for that Scrimnet, I really am going to have to go to the museum.

Debbie, I have ordered extracts from the army lists/harts , but they only cover Officers/Nco's, so if the owner was an infantryman then it wont help, I will look for darbyshire in the first instance.

Regards

Pete.

[scrimnet]

War dairies may be useful, but I doubt you'll glean much from the Army List I'm afraid...

The Regt Association may be of more use....

[Salford Lass]

Pete

Have been through my tree the only possibles are a John Herbert Darbyshire b.1886 and a Frederick Darbyshire b. 1889, their brother Alfred Edwin father of Herbert an Walter was born in 1881, but we are pretty certain it won't be him. They were all born Cheshire, not sure if that is significant or not??

Debbie

[scrimnet]

Pete

Have been through my tree the only possibles are a John Herbert Darbyshire b.1886 and a Frederick Darbyshire b. 1889, their brother Alfred Edwin father of Herbert an Walter was born in 1881, but we are pretty certain it won't be him. They were all born Cheshire, not sure if that is significant or not??

Debbie

Cheshire...South Lancs...If I recall the borders have ebbed and flowed for many years...Sometimes Cheshire....Sometimes South Lancs...Sometimes Gtr Manchester!!

And of course...people did move house...Even then!

My grandfather was born in 1877 (!!) and he was HG during WW2....