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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 March 09 22:30 GMT (UK) »
ooops!

How did I miss the cap badge!

The last one....
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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 March 09 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Pete

I have no idea, all I know is it has to be family, and there is definatley 1 possible.

All I do know is all the medals I have photos for are for WW2, and that this Guy is probably brother to Herbert and Walter Darbyshire (see my other thread), but that is all I have to go on, his name was James Darbyshire, but if it was him, he survived, and there is no other info???? The only other possible is a William Howcroft, who also survived, all others are accounted for or would have been too old for WW2

Since visiting my hubbys Aunt and getting the photos, she has been in hospital very Ill, so I can't approach her at the minute with any more questions, so am doing my searching ad hoc so to speak.

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Debbie

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Melbourne (manchester)
Wall (derbyshire and Salford, Manchester)
Delaunay (Rouen, France and Blackley, Manchester)
Morris (Ireland, Bolton and Manchester)
Crompton (Bolton)
Hutchins (Yorkshire and Manchester)
Howcroft (Leigh and Irlam)
Darbyshire (Warrington and Irlam)
Daintith (Warrington and Culcheth)
Whittaker (Irlam and Manchester)
Holcroft (Croft and Irlam)
Dennsison (Ireland, Yorkshire and Manchester)
Edwards (Abergavenny and Salford)

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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 March 09 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Just a note:- The Darbyshire boys were born between 1912 and 1922, James being the Eldest.

Could Walter or Herbert have been in the South Lancashire Regiment, before going into the RAF or Royal Navy?????

The sisters of the Family also did war work, now none of them as far as I am aware needed to as the Family were all in reserved occupations ie Farmers, Steel Works etc, and there is only James, up to now, who didn't do any War Work??? Which while strange isn't impossible.

Sorry if I am rambling, just trying to put it together, and if anyone can help??

Debbie
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Wall (derbyshire and Salford, Manchester)
Delaunay (Rouen, France and Blackley, Manchester)
Morris (Ireland, Bolton and Manchester)
Crompton (Bolton)
Hutchins (Yorkshire and Manchester)
Howcroft (Leigh and Irlam)
Darbyshire (Warrington and Irlam)
Daintith (Warrington and Culcheth)
Whittaker (Irlam and Manchester)
Holcroft (Croft and Irlam)
Dennsison (Ireland, Yorkshire and Manchester)
Edwards (Abergavenny and Salford)

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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 March 09 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Debbie,

I think that the South Lancs cap badge pre-dates WW2.  It may even pre-date WW1.

The closest to it that I can see is the Boer War !

This could be the generation above Herbert and Walter.

The Boer War regimental lists are available - I dont have a copy but maybe someone on the ww1 forum might have them?

This isnt gospel - the badge is traditionally bi-metal and there were quite a few variations - but it may explain why you cant fit the badges to the generation you are looking at.

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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #13 on: Friday 13 March 09 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Pete

I am getting more confused by the minute with this one, will work it out though lol

Debbie
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Wall (derbyshire and Salford, Manchester)
Delaunay (Rouen, France and Blackley, Manchester)
Morris (Ireland, Bolton and Manchester)
Crompton (Bolton)
Hutchins (Yorkshire and Manchester)
Howcroft (Leigh and Irlam)
Darbyshire (Warrington and Irlam)
Daintith (Warrington and Culcheth)
Whittaker (Irlam and Manchester)
Holcroft (Croft and Irlam)
Dennsison (Ireland, Yorkshire and Manchester)
Edwards (Abergavenny and Salford)

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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 March 09 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Debbie,

The regimental museum is in Preston, its called the Queens Lancashire Regiment museum.

One of their people will i'm sure take one look at the badges and tell you straightaway what they are.

I am reasonably confident it wont be ww2 - I think the collar tabs make it older.

They dont do e.mail enquiries, but I am sure it will be useful.

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Pete

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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 March 09 21:35 GMT (UK) »
The collar dogs and badge remained the same from 1898 up until amalgamation with the East Lancs in 1958... ;)
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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 March 09 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Oh and of course the local Home Guard in WW2 would have worn that cap badge as well...
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Re: Is this a Royal Navy Cap Badge
« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 March 09 21:52 GMT (UK) »
So not the Boer war then....

I'm still going to go for earlier rather then later. The size of the Ich Dien typeface and thinness of line above it are swaying me that way.

Were the Home Guard attached to a specific local regiment (if so i assume it would be the 6th Bn, Home Duties?) or were they autonamous, I havent started looking for them yet !
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