Hi,
Lady Grace,
I can answer your message Re William & Richard.
"Though not stated anywhere it seems certain that WILLIAM BLOMEVYLE, younger brother of RICHARD BLOMEVYLE, who died in c 1490, settled in STONHAM in the 15th century(Sir Reginald Blomfield) "Yes William was the younger brother of Richard and on the main de Blunvil branch of Newton Flotman. Thier parents were William Blomville and Elizabeth de Bosville.
Richard was b after1405 and d c 1490 he held Newton Flotman and lived at Asby Manor, he also owned Gunton Manor.
William settled in Little Stonham, he had a son William to a wife unknown and had a son William who married Ann Cutting.
The decendents of William and Ann on several occasions married in later generations into the Blomvyle/Blomfield family already settled there.
We know there was already a family of Blomvyle's in Stonham because we have a Will of one Gilbert dated 1416 from Stonham who clearly states (for info I had the Will professionally translated from the Latin) that he had brothers John and William in Stonham.
So I am assuming (and it
is an assumption) that Gilbert Blomvyle c1450 is a decendent of one of either John nor William .
Gilbert's son seems to have re-located to London with his family, it is unlikely (but not impossible) that they came back to Stonham - the Will states the location of his son so we know he where he went.
The dates do fit with classing Gilbert as an offsroping of William + Ann in Stonham but thier children are all listed and there is no Gilbert mentioned amongst them.
Also if names run in families it seem likely that Gilbert c1450 is of the line of Gilbert d1416.
Who knows - this is what we are going to have to find out.
AND - where did the Stonham Blomvyles come from - which generation did they break off from the main De Blunvil line.
NOTE: - I have used the varying spelling to differenciate between the 2 branches but the De Blunvil and Blomvyles all end up and seem to start with the same spellings - I have just used the 2 to make each branch stand apart from each other - it is in no way a definitive spelling of either.
however one thing is for certain they have the same coat of arms!
who is Richard Blonvyle?Richard is the son of
William Blomville and Elizabeth de Bosville (as mentioned above) - he is from the Newton Flotman branch - which I phrase as the 'main' branch for no other reason than this line is well documented and seems to be the line of inherited 1st sons.
William Blomville's parents (according to the Pedigree) are Nicholas Blumvil and Elizabeth Paston.
Richard Blomvyle 1405-1490 married to Catherine Ingloss, with a younger brother William Blomvyle alive in 1503, ..yup - thats the one!
Sir Reginald Blomfield this William Blomvyle came to live in Stoneham - yup - we are along the same lines here!!!!
I was wondering if their (grt) Grandfather, a Sir William Blomvyle who held Newton in the year 1420, could possibly be our William Blomvyle c1366??? jIt could well be although I've not come across another child of his unaccounted for but that doesnt mean he hasnt got more kids than are stated. - he has 3 known kids Richard, Nicholas and Margaret - however that means nothing at all really.
We are looking at 3 brothers John, William and Gilbert all born in Stonham and Gilbert died in 1416 - assuming he lived to a ripe old age (age not stated in Will) say 60??? which is as you say 1366(ish).
I would say that as
William lived and raised his family in Newton Flotman it is not he! (dont quote me on that it is all theory here!)
Someone moved to Stonham prior to say 1366 - maybe earlier we dont know who the eldest sibling was.
This brings us to the earlier branches where several sons are mentioned with no families attached - ours could be from any of these.
The BIG question is which!There is a branch living in Monk Soham that I cant trace back or forward apart from a few generations but they could possibly be from Richard de Blunvil and Elizabeth de Braydeston - but only because the dates fit father to son and nothing else - no actual link.
As several ladies from Monk Soham marry into the Stonham Blomvyles there may be a possible link - there was contact of some sort between the 2 places.
So ever onwards hey ho!!
Yi
