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*COMPLETED* Birth Certificate Information - late & formerly
« on: Friday 20 March 09 02:42 GMT (UK) »
COMPLETED  I have a birth certificate for my grandmother Elsie Annie WOODLEY - she was born in 1882.

On the certificate under column 5 - "Name, surname and maiden name of mother" it has these details:-

"Annie Woodley late Clegg formerly Childs"

now my grandmothers maiden name was Woodley, but I'm not sure what is meant by "late" and "formerly" for her mother?

Can anyone please explain these terms?,

Many thanks

Barry M   COMPLETED
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WOODLEY in Gosport Hampshire
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Re: Birth Certificate Information - late & formerly
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 March 09 02:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Annie was married twice she was born Childs
Annie's 1st marriage
Annie Edith Childs
Eli Clegg
Jun 1876 Alverstoke 2b   859

2nd marriage
Annie Clegg
Henry Woodley
Dec 1881 Alverstoke 2b 1056

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Re: Birth Certificate Information - late & formerly
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 March 09 02:59 GMT (UK) »
Donna,
Thank you very much for the information, I can now trace Childs and not Clegg.

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Barry M
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Re: Birth Certificate Information - late & formerly
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 March 09 03:17 GMT (UK) »
Barry

More than likely she was married twice.

If it's the right people Annie CHILDS married Eli CLEGG, Jun qtr 1876, Alverstoke. Eli CLEGG has died and then Annie CLEGG has married Henry WOODLEY, Dec qtr 1881, Alverstoke.

There is an Eli CLEGG in Aldershot in 1871, a soldier aged 22, from Halifax, which could be him.

1871
Mistingford, Droxford, Hampshire
Andrew CHILDS, head mar 47, Farmer, born Hants, Soberton
Esther CHILDS, wife mar 40, born Hants, Farnham
Mary CHILDS, dau unm 22, Schoolmistress, born Hants, Soberton
Ann CHILDS, dau unm 18, born Hants, Droxford
Harriet CHILDS, dau unm 16, born ditto
Elizabeth CHILDS, dau 11, Scholar, born ditto
Emily CHILDS, dau 8, Scholar, born ditto
Margaret CHILDS, dau 4, Scholar, born ditto
RG10/1217/F69/P16

If you get Annie CLEGG and Henry WOODLEY's marriage certificate that should confirm if these are the right ones, as it will name the fathers, in her case Andrew CHILDS.

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Re: Birth Certificate Information - late & formerly
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 March 09 03:22 GMT (UK) »
She is on the IGI bapt 28 Nov 1852, Swanmore by Droxford, parents Andrew and Esther.

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Re: Birth Certificate Information - late & formerly
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 March 09 05:01 GMT (UK) »
It looks as though Annie's second husband was also in the armed forces.

1881
RG11/1165/109/3
High St, Gosport, Alverstoke, Hampshire
Henry WOODLEY, Boarder, 36, Unmarried, Private in the Royal Marines, L.I., b Callum (sic) Oxfordshire

And here they are in:
1891
RG12/978/13/20
"Three Pigeons", 4 Lombard St, Abingdon Berkshire
WOODLEY
Henry, Head, 47, Drayman (Brewers) & Publican, b Oxon Culham
Annie, Wife, 37, b Hampshire Droxford
Elsie A, Daughter, 8, Scholar, b Hampshire Gosport
Nellie E, Daughter, 2, b Berks Abingdon
Harry D, Son, 7 months, b Berks Abingdon
and a lodger

And
1901
RG13/1131/27/7
27 St Edmunds Lane, Abingdon Berkshire
WOODLEY
Henry, Head, 56, Fruiterer's Labourer, b Oxon Culham
Annie, Wife, 37, b Hants Mislingford
Nellie, Daughter, 12, b Berks Abingdon
Harry, Son, 11, b Berks Abingdon
and a 5yo boarder Harry LAWRENCE b Abingdon

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JAP

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Re: Birth Certificate Information - late & formerly
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 March 09 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Jap and Ian,
Thank you for tracing the information about Elsie and her mother.

 I have gained a lot of information from your efforts. I now know where they lived and worked in Abingdon, where I was brought up.

Many thanks again,

Barry M
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WOODLEY in Gosport Hampshire
SIMMONS and FITZSIMMONS in Poplar LONDON

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Re: Birth Certificate Information - late & formerly
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 March 09 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Barry.

I didn't post Elsie in 1901.

Just for completeness - though you probably already have it.

1901
RG13/837/44/4
Ripple Court, Ripple Kent
In the household (well off judging by the number of servants!) of Joseph SLADEN, Retired Officer Royal Artillery
Elsie WOODLEY, Single, 18, Housemaid, b Hants Gosport

It seems that Joseph SLADEN was a Lieutenant Colonel married to a Lady Sarah Sophia LAMBART
See:
http://thepeerage.com/p20995.htm

Regards,

JAP