This is our most Desperate Hour! (1841 lookup)

[Rowdy Jnr]

Help me Obi Wan kanobi!

Need 1841 Look up for family of Smiths living in Elslacck near Skipton W Yorks.

Marriage Look up anything. Totally stuck.
Cant find wifes maiden name tried IGI

Ann Unknown born Coniston. This could be Coniston Cold or the one in the lakes.

Francis 1813 born Norton near Malton living in Elslack in 1851 farmer of 60 Acres

First Child born 1833 Elslack Named Robert
David born 1841 Elslack

They are still there in 1851 living at what looks Like Cocckers Hill.

Olease Help

[KathyM]

Hope this helps - don't know how much you have found already :

1841 census at Broughton - township of Elslack

first entry : unreadable abode name - something like ....sons Mill or Gill

David SMITH    60    Farmer      y
Elizabeth SMITH   60                 y
Mary SMITH    30                       y


next abode = Elslack (?) Hall - John Edmonson & family (farmer)

next abode - ..............unreadable but doesn't look like cockers hill

Francis SMITH      25    Farmer     y
Anne SMITH         25                    y
Robert SMITH       2                      y
David SMITH        10 months        y


there are a couple more pages then a number of 'cottages'

Cottage -

John SMITH    35   Ag. Labourer     y
Hannah SMITH  30                               y
Elizabeth    "      12                              y
Sarah         "      11                              y
Martha       "       10                              y
Joseph       "       8                                y
Francis      "        3                                y
John         "         1                                y


From IGI -  Francis SMITH  born Norton 26 Nov 1812  bpt. 4 Dec 1812
                  parents  David Smith & Elizabeth
siblings :
                  John SMITH  born 21 Oct 1810  Norton
                                      bapt. 23 Oct 1810

                  Mary SMITH   bpt  24 April 1808  at Birdsall
                  David SMITH  bpt  1806                      "


David SMITH   bapt. Broughton in Skipton  17 July 1777  (C106102)
parents - Robert Smith & Hannah

Robert SMITH married Hannah HARRISON - Broughton in Skipton 1776


I think it is likely that Robert Smith & Hannah had a farm in Elslack - son David moved away to find work & had children in Birdsall - moved back as his father aged

Francis possibly took over his fathers farm.

The best way to find Ann's maiden name would be from her son's birth certificates

[KathyM]

Here is David Smith's birth certificate details - you can order online now - for £7 if you give the ref.


SMITH   DAVID     Sept. Qu. 1840  SKIPTON   23  567

cheers

[Rowdy Jnr]

Thanks for that, Have the family pretty much sorted from 1851 but needed more clues to their Ancestors.

May the force be with you.

[Rowdy Jnr]

Ids the 1861 Census out yet? I could really do with it!

[KathyM]

1836 online have started putting the 1861 census on their website - but not Yorkshire yet.....

I don't have access to it, but you may get help if you ask for a look-up on here !

Elslack is a pretty small place !   There is nothing on the freecen website either !  sorry.


There is a marriage on the IGI for a Francis Smith & Anne Robinson at Kilham in Yorkshire - 27 July 1833 - a bit out of the way - but when you get your certificate you should be able to trace the proper marriage !

[ChrisBros]

Hi Rowdy
There's a marriage on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com for Francis Smith at Skipton in the Sept 1/4 of 1837
Anne Tattersall is the girl you're looking for 

ChrisB

[ChrisBros]

Just a few more bits I found----
I have the '61 census and note that Francis and Anne had children with the names Thomas & Margaret
--IGI shows the 26 March 1815 Christening of an Anne Tattersall at Gargrave -- parents Thomas & Margaret
and-- Gargrave contains Coniston and is near Skipton
Also found was a sister Susannah 23 May 1813
and --- 2 other Tattersall families had children at around the same time in Gargrave -- Lawrence & Jane + James & Ellen

That all looks quite promising!!!!! --- Couldn't find the parents on the unreadable 1841 census --nor in 1851

A Thomas Tattersall married Margret Aldersley on 17 Dec 1812 at Carlton In Craven.
Regards
ChrisB

[Biddy]

I think that Birdsall is probably BURNSALL which lies on the R Wharfe.  The church there is very old.  Norton is possibly Norton Tower, or the area near it.  It is an ancient ruin lying on the fell side above the road from Skipton to Rylstone, and not very far from Burnsall.
Cheers