SA BDM & BISA please - REES

[nudge67]

Hi all, I'm wondering if you could check that I have all relevent siblings in this line:

Richard REES (1811-1879)
m. Ellis "Alice" HARDING, fmly SARGENT nee PACKHAM (1806-1863) on 12 June 1852 at Gawler, SA.
- no children
m. Christiana BLAKE nee McFEAT (1829-1918) on 19 Feb 1864 at Kapunda, SA
- Martha REES (b. 1865) m. Joseph RHYMER 1896
- David REES (1868-1946)
- Richard REES (1872-1874)

David REES (1868-1946)
m. Eliza DAVEY (1868-1944) on 24 Feb 1891 at Marrabel, SA
- Richard Davey REES (1891-1964)
- Elizabeth REES (b. 1893) m. James ELMSLIE 1912
- Christina REES (b. 1895) m. Benjamin TAYLOR 1914
- Percy REES (1899-1899)

Richard Davey REES (1891-1964)
m. Florrie CHESSON (1895-1987) on 18 Aug 1920 at West Hindmarsh, SA
- Basil David REES (1921-2005)
- Colin Richard REES (b. 1926)
- Mavis Florence REES (b. 1927)

Thanks heaps
Nudge

[krisesjoint]

Hi Nudge,

Richard REES (1811-1879)
m. Ellis "Alice" HARDING, fmly SARGENT nee PACKHAM (1806-1863) on 12 June 1852 at Gawler, SA. Two records of this - He is listed as Richard RESS she is Alice ARDEN in one and Alice SERGENT
- no children
m. Christiana BLAKE nee McFEAT (1829-1918) on 19 Feb 1864 at Kapunda, SA He is Richard REESE  His father is listed as Jenken REESE
- Martha REES (b. 1865) m. Joseph RHYMER 1896 Do Not See It but Albert Henry RHYMER 36 Single father Joseph Joseph Pollit Thymer = Martha REES Single 31 father Richard Rees BC Church Marabel Dist Gil 188 127
- David REES (1868-1946) 6 Apr 1868 (REECE)
- Richard REES (1872-1874) 16 Feb 1872 (REECE)

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

BISA

REES Richard d 9 March 1879 Marrabel SA 0cc Bullock Driver, Farmer res Peachey Belt, Butchers Gap rel Methodist
m: (1/2) 12 Jun 1852 Gawler SA Mrs Alice (Ellis) HARDING fmly SARGENT nee PACKHAM par Samuel and Eliz nee SIMMONDS b 1806 Northam
Sussex ENG died 21 Oct 1863 Butchers Gap SA ch - no issue
m: (2/2 Christina nee BLAKE

Kris 

[nudge67]

thanks for all that, kris. a lot of spelling variations there.

one thing concerns me. I've just been looking over at rootsweb, and this is a timeline of what I have found on Ellis Packham.

Ellis "Alice" Packham
1806 - born at Northiam, Sussex to Samuel & Elizabeth Packham
1825 - 1st marriage to Thomas Sargent (b. 1798 at Battle, Sussex) at St Mary's, Northiam, Sussex
1825 - Sophia Packham Sargent born at Northiam, Sussex
1827 - Sarah Sargent born at Beckley, Sussex
1829 - George Sargent born at Beckley, Sussex
1832 - Thomas Marsh Sargent born at Beckley, Sussex
1836 - Eliza Sargent born and died at Beckley, Sussex
1838 - Sargent family emigrates to Sydney aboard Woodbridge
1840 - Henry Packham Sargent born at Sutton Forest, NSW
1841 - Jane Elizabeth Sargent born at Sutton Forest, NSW
1842 - Mary Sargent born at Sutton Forest, NSW
1843 - James Sargent born at Sutton Forest, NSW
1844 - 2nd marriage to Aaron Harding  (b. 1802 at Northiam, Sussex) in South Australia
1845 - Aaron Junior Harding born at Sutton Forest, NSW
1848 - William Harding born at Gawler, SA
1851 - 2nd husband Aaron Harding dies at Gawler, SA
1852 - 3rd marriage to Richard Rees (b. 1811 in Maldwyn, Wales) at Gawler, SA
1863 - dies at Butcher's Gap, Kapunda, SA
1877 - 1st husband Thomas Sargent dies at Boorowa, NSW
1879 - 3rd husband Richard Rees dies at Marrabel, SA

see the problem? divorces were very rare in those days amongst the working class, they were all agricultural labourers, yet she remarries twice while her first husband is alive.

[krisesjoint]

Nudge, are you sure you have the correct death for hubby 1?

There are BISA entries.

SARGENT Thomas parents Thomas and Jane nee Osborne b c 1798 England died 20 Jan 1847 arrived c 1847 Res Gawler religion BC
m 2 July 1825 Ellis nee Packham parents Samuel and Eliz nee Simmonds b c 1806 Sussex remarried A Harding Ch Sophia Packham (1825-1849), Sarah (1827-1865), Geo (1829-1924), Thos Marsh (1832-1910), Eliza (1836-1836), Jane Eliz WOODMAN (1841-1881), Mary JOHNSTON (1842-1920), Henry Packham (1843-1883), Jas (1843-1902)

HARDING Aaron d: 6 Nov 1851 Gawler SA arr 1847 overland from Nsw 0cc Overlander, Farmer, Drover res Gawler rel: Meth
m c1845 Nsw Mrs Ellis SARGENT nee PACKHAM par: Saml and Eliz nee SIMMONDS b  c1806 Sussex  Rem.R REES ch: Aaron (1845-1928), Wm
(1848-1930)

Cheers Kris 

[nudge67]

Thanks Kris.

it appears both Rootsweb and FamilySearch are incorrect

Cheers
Nudge

[tracey sargent]

Alice (Ellis) Sargent married Thomas Sargent 23/2/1833 at St. Marys Church Northiam, witnessed by Samuel Packham and Mary Cheedman.
1st child. Sophia Packham Sargent baptised 19.11.1825
2nd child. Sarah Sargent born 21.10.1827 and baptised 2.12.1827
3rd child. George Sargent born May 1829 and baptised 27.12.1829
4th Thomas Marsh Sargent baptised 9.9.1832
5th Eliza Sargent baptised 20.3.1836 and died 30.5.1836 aged 2 months
All the above were living in the Beckley Parish
Alice and Thomas and the 4 remaining chidren decieded to emigrate to Australia and embarked on the Woodbridge on 25.4.1838 and arrived at Port Jackson Australia 15.9.1838.
6th child. Henry Packham Sargent 16.1.1840
7th child. Jane Elizabeth Sargent 22.7.1841
8th child. Mary Sargent 4.10.1842
9th child James Sargent 24.12.1843
the above 3 children were all born at Sutton Forest NSW
Thomas and Ellis part ways for some reason unknown and Thomas took the 4 eldest children. Later he moved to Burrowa a property called DollarVale which to this day as far as I know is still in the family. (my father grew up on the property)
Alice Had custody of the 4 youngest child and remarried to Aaron Harding
1st child. Aaron Harding Jnr
They pinoneered over to SA which took the about 6 months
They settled at Gawler SA by June 1848 as the birth of aaron and William were registered there.
2nd child. William Harding born2.4.1848
Aaron Harding Snr was found dead 6.11.1851 while they were liveing at Gawler SA
on the 12.6.1852 Ellis married Richard Rees of Peachy Belt Gawler Plains.
Alice died 21.10.1863 at Butchers Gap SA. her death being resistered by her son Henry.
There is also a story that Richard Rees destroyed Ellis's wil when she dies in 1863
Richard Rees died 9.3.1879 at Marrabel SA
Thomas Sargent died 20.1.1877 at Burrowa NSW

Hope this helps...i have a little more information i mainly have the Sargent family and i have quiet a bt of that....

[nudge67]

tracey, that is all so fascinating. The deeper I delve into the Rees family, the murkier it gets. Wills being destroyed? Wow.

Richard Rees is my maternal Gt-Gt-Gt-Grandfather, so that is how I tie in. my gt-gt-gt grandmother was his 3rd wife, Christiana Blake. I'm very keen on anything you have relating to them.

Thank you so much for your input. One question: is there a record of Thomas and Ellis ever divorcing? or were her subsequent marriages bigamous? I haven't come across a date anywhere for the marriage to Aaron Harding.

As far as I can figure out, Ellis had 3 husbands, 9 children, and a whopping 87 grandchildren!

Cheers
Nudge

[tracey sargent]

Nudge, I dont know when Thomas and Alice divorced but I would love to find out.....
Ok what i have is the following
on 12th June 1852 Ellis them married Richard Rees, bullock driver of Peachy Belt, Gawler Plains at St. George's Church Gawler, by Rev WH Coombs, the same rev who baptised William Arden in June 1848. At this time she was calling herself Alice Arden - widow. By 1859 it is noted that Ellis was living at Butchers Gap SA and was presented with a Bible by her husband, Richard Rees.It is thought that Ellis may have become religious about then as it is recorded that a Mrs Rees opened a Methodist Church at Butchers Gap in 1860. We have found text tickets, headed Bible christian Society which were issued to Ellis, calling herself Sister Reece, and dated 1860 and 1861 and also to Richard Reece. This church fell into ruins many years ago and there is no longer anything left.

Ellis died 21.10.1863 at Butchers Gap her death was registered by her son, Henry who was married and living at Marrabel. It is known that Richard Rees or Reece called himself a farmer and probably had a piece of land at butchers Gap where he Ellis and the 6 children lived.
There is also a story that Richard Rees destroyed his wife Ellis's will when she died in 1863 andkicked out Aaron and William Harding with only the clothes they stood up in, and that he was aso a drunkard. No one can really be sure what happened, bit it is known that Mary and James Sargent still lived at Butchers Gap until they married approximately 12 months later. It has not been established whether the property was Ellis's or her husbands.
Richard Rees died 9.3.1879 at Marrabel SA and the informant at the time of death was William Polkinghorne, father of William Hardings wife, Honorah. Richard had remarried and his estate went to his wife Christina Rees.
Thats all i have,but if i come across anymore while im searching for the Sargent stuff i will post it here for u
cheers
Tracey