Henson

[acartwright]

Trying to discover where my great great grandparents are originally from in England. 
Charles(b. 04 Dec. 1838) and Ann Henson(do not know her maiden name) along with their children Albert and Fannie (or Fanny), left Liverpoool, England on the ship the Nemisis which arrived in New York on 04 April 1870.  They were counted later that year in the 1870 US Census living in Rock, Jefferson County, Missouri.  Any help would be great. 

[Spidermonkey]

Hi acartwright,

How old were Albert and Fannie on the 1871 census?

[mosiefish]

Hi,

I found them and Albert was 2 and Fanny was 10 months old in the 1870 census. 

No helping much though!

Mo

[Spidermonkey]

They're an awkward bunch arent they!

No Fanny or Frances Hensons bn 1869/1870.  One Frances Hanson bn 1870 Islington, and one Fanny Hanson bn 1870 Boston

[Eyesee]

Fanny was born in Missouri according to 1870 census, although the shipping list has her born England.

If she was 10 months old in Aug 1870 when the census was taken, she was born Oct/Nov 1869. Quite possible she was born very close to the ship sailing and was not registered in England, although Liverpool to New York was not that long a voyage.

There is one possibility for Charles, seeing you have his actual birthdate. There is a Charles HENSON birth, Mar qtr 1839, Derby, 19 455. This means his birth was registered during Jan-Feb-Mar 1839, possible if his birth was in Dec 1838.

Albert was 1 on the shipping list but 2 on the 1870 census, so suggests a birthdate of May Jun Jul 1868

Can't find the Charles born 1838 in 1841 UK census, but think he might be the one in St Alkmund, Derby in 1851 aged 12, and son of Richard and Mary - HO107/2142/F248/P32. This age would fit with being born Dec 1838. No other Charles HENSON in Derby at the time. He is still there in 1861 aged 22, occupation Mason - RG9/2497/F27/P8. There is no Charles HENSON in Derby in 1871, so this is a possibility.

Ian C

[acartwright]

thanks to all for the interest and replies.   Eyesee,  I too thought that Fanny was born in MO until I found the Passenger list from the Nemesis, which showed her as a passenger.   Does anyone know if there are any kind of records in England for passengers leaving the country?  My passenger list comes from New York.

[jorose]

1870 would be too early for passenger lists leaving the UK.

Where did they go after the 1870 census, and were there other children? There might be records in the US that show Ann's maiden name, which would make finding them in England much easier.

[avm228]

I wonder whether Albert is the Albert HANSON (born England of English parents) who in 1880 was a 13 yr old farmer's apprentice in Meramec, Jefferson, Missouri.

One also sees in Meramec in 1880 a 10 yr old Fannie HANSON and a 7 yr old Eva HANSON as housekeepers' apprentices to a William and Maria POWELL. Both girls are supposedly born England of English parents, though presumably the information was given by the Powells and may not be reliable.

Orphaned perhaps? This does seem very young indeed for the two girls, especially, to be living/working away from home.

Anna

[Eyesee]

There is a marriage licence and affadavit for Fannie HENSON aged 39 and Albert ZIMMERMAN also aged 39 dated 14 September 1908 in Jefferson County.

In 1900 Fannie A HENSON is 29 and a servant at 3015 Washington Ave, St Louis. She is single aged 29, born England. Says she was born Aug 1870, but that does not quite fit.

Wonder if this is her from IGI
Frances Alice HENSON, baptised 12 Sep 1869, Kings-Ripton, Huntingdonshire, parents Charles HENSON and Ann Maria

1861 UK census has a Charles HENSON, aged 21 in Abbots Ripton, Huntingdonshire, son of Charles HENSON and Frances. In 1851 his mother was named as Fanney. His birth is registered Dec qtr 1839, Huntingdon.

Is the birthdate you have of Dec 1838 correct, could it be 1839.

Ian C