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1861 Census Request
« on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:30 BST (UK) »
I have a marriage of a Samuel Turner to Sarah Jane Hickman in 1857 found on the FreeBMD  page in Stourbridge Worcs. Despite searching I have not been able to find any census entry for them.  As far as I know one of their sons Joh Hickman Turner was born c1869/70
in Stourbridge.

Any help in finding the census for this family would be most appreciated.  Thank You

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PATTESON-BLACKWELL  Rochdale
PATTESON,SMITH  Bury and Manchester
GARNER, ALLEN Manchehster/Ireland
HARTLEY, Burnley
BLACKWALL/WELL Hereford City, Herefordshire
COLLINS   Leominster, Herefordshire
ARMSTRONG   Orleton, Herefordshire
LLOYD  Orleton, Herefordshire
THOMPSON   Barrow-in-Furness, Lancashire
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Re: 1861 Census Request
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Gateacre

Are they the family living in Dudley in 1871...with Joseph H age 3m ?

RG10/3016/65/52

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Kershaw, Longbottom,Parvin
Areas  Huddersfield, Brighouse, Rastrick ,Thirsk, Sand Hutton
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Re: 1861 Census Request
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:49 BST (UK) »
Births December qtr 1869 
 
John Hickman TURNER  Stourbridge  6c 195
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Re: 1861 Census Request
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:51 BST (UK) »
Sister Jane

I cannot be sure as I found John Hickman Turner on the 1901 census in Barrow in Furness Lancashire which seem to indicare he was born 1870  Stourbridge. This family seem to have used the maiden surname of the mother and that is why I looked fora Hickman /Turner marriage on the BMDs and found the one in Stourbridge.  I will look at the one you have suggested to see if it could t

Thank you so much for your help

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CLEGG,BINNS Rochdale
PATTESON-BLACKWELL  Rochdale
PATTESON,SMITH  Bury and Manchester
GARNER, ALLEN Manchehster/Ireland
HARTLEY, Burnley
BLACKWALL/WELL Hereford City, Herefordshire
COLLINS   Leominster, Herefordshire
ARMSTRONG   Orleton, Herefordshire
LLOYD  Orleton, Herefordshire
THOMPSON   Barrow-in-Furness, Lancashire
THOMPSON   Dromara, Co. Down, N. Ireland
CAMPBELL   Dromara, Down and Co. Tyrone N Ireland
FISHER   Pennsyvania and Ohio  USA
MARKS   Pennsylvania USA


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Re: 1861 Census Request
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:52 BST (UK) »
Do you have a copy of the 1857 marriage cert showing their respective ages and their fathers names

This will enable us to check earlier censuses for their birthplaces
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Re: 1861 Census Request
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:54 BST (UK) »

There is a Sarah Jane Hickman on the 1851 b. 1838 Staffs. Sedgley.

There are Samuel and Sarah Jane Turner on 1861 and 1871 census (so far, not checked others) both both Sedgley.

Are you sure that Samuel and Sarah were the parents of John ?  

He was registered Q4. 1869 Stourbridge  Vol 6c. P. 195
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Re: 1861 Census Request
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:59 BST (UK) »
1861...RG9/2047/10/14..looks a possible..if you havent got access to cencus I will gladly post

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Kershaw, Longbottom,Parvin
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Re: 1861 Census Request
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 00:59 BST (UK) »
Do you have a copy of John's marriage cert confirming his father was Samuel or are you assuming the 1857 marriage is the right parents because of the Hickman name
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Re: 1861 Census Request
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 01:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for yur help  Iam afraid that when I found the Sarah Jane Hinkman and Samuel TUrner marriage in Stourbridge I just made a guess that they could be the parents of the John H b 1869

Maybe one can get in trouble assuming and should really pbtain a marriage cert before being certain
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CLEGG,BINNS Rochdale
PATTESON-BLACKWELL  Rochdale
PATTESON,SMITH  Bury and Manchester
GARNER, ALLEN Manchehster/Ireland
HARTLEY, Burnley
BLACKWALL/WELL Hereford City, Herefordshire
COLLINS   Leominster, Herefordshire
ARMSTRONG   Orleton, Herefordshire
LLOYD  Orleton, Herefordshire
THOMPSON   Barrow-in-Furness, Lancashire
THOMPSON   Dromara, Co. Down, N. Ireland
CAMPBELL   Dromara, Down and Co. Tyrone N Ireland
FISHER   Pennsyvania and Ohio  USA
MARKS   Pennsylvania USA