Author Topic: Grave Stones  (Read 3822 times)

Offline Jane Masri

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,275
  • My back garden
    • View Profile
Grave Stones
« on: Friday 18 February 05 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Just being curious here but when peole set-out to document Monumental Inscriptions, how do they manage to read the very old, faded ones?  Is there some kind of scientific secret to all this?  Personally, many that I've seen are so worn I can't make head 'nor tail of it, yet I've seen documentation of burials from the 1600s...how do they do it?
Jane
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Researching BRABY/BRAVERY in SURREY and SUSSEX

PLEASE use the look-up requests page not a personal message.

Offline Pollynation

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 407
  • The picture that started it all
    • View Profile
Re: Grave Stones
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 February 05 18:17 GMT (UK) »
A good way to read old graves is to take some ordinary white chalk and rub the gravestone. It will miss the engraved bit to reveal name etc.

Also the rain will wash it away and cause no permanent damage.
Maybe someone else has better ideas?

Best wishes
Pauline
Atkinson/Mountney/Gardner/Mellor/Finch/Higham-Lancashire
Cooper/Price-Shropshire
Lund/Foster/Wilkinson/Crawforth-Yorkshire
Calvert-Durham


Whoever said seek and ye shall find was NOT a genealogist.

Offline RJ_Paton

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,492
  • Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
    • View Profile
Re: Grave Stones
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 February 05 18:25 GMT (UK) »
If photographing the stones try and use a seperate flash gun which can be held at an angle to the  actual stone to give better lighting.

Offline Jane Masri

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,275
  • My back garden
    • View Profile
Re: Grave Stones
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 February 05 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Ah ha, now I understand.  Do they mind you rubbing chalk over the head stone?

Jane
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Researching BRABY/BRAVERY in SURREY and SUSSEX

PLEASE use the look-up requests page not a personal message.


Offline Pollynation

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 407
  • The picture that started it all
    • View Profile
Re: Grave Stones
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 February 05 18:33 GMT (UK) »
No one has complained to me. I have not heard of others having trouble either.

I always try to rub most of it off anyway when i'm finished.
Best wishes
Pauline
Atkinson/Mountney/Gardner/Mellor/Finch/Higham-Lancashire
Cooper/Price-Shropshire
Lund/Foster/Wilkinson/Crawforth-Yorkshire
Calvert-Durham


Whoever said seek and ye shall find was NOT a genealogist.

Offline deadants

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *******
  • Posts: 890
    • View Profile
Re: Grave Stones
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 February 05 21:12 GMT (UK) »
how do they manage to read the very old, faded ones?  Is there some kind of scientific secret to all this?

Check these out. It shows some eamples of rubbings.

http://hastings.ci.lexington.ma.us/Colonial/GraveYard/YeOldGraveYard.html

http://www.frightcatalog.com/tutorial_grave_rubbing.asp

http://amberskyline.com/treasuremaps/t_stn3.html

deadants
Cleary, Doran, Boland, McCooey, McManus, O'brien, Martin, Savage, Wallis, McCollister, Wood.  (More to come soon)

Offline Keith Sherwood

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,382
  • The grass covers and the rain effaces. Victor Hugo
    • View Profile
Re: Grave Stones
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 February 05 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Fortunately a great many of the M.I's exposed to the elements in churchyards were carefully read and recorded some time ago.  In recent years, however, some of the inscriptions have vanished fast thanks to the acid rain amongst several reasons.
In the 1930's some of our Australian relatives came to Ickleton, Cambs and had very little trouble reading the family gravestones as far back as the 18th Century.  I myself first went there in the late 1970's and was amazed how difficult the words had become to read only 40 years on.  Today I would certainly not be able to read what I had been able to read 30 years ago.
Sometimes a quirk of nature means that moss grows along the words and letters of the inscription and its meaning and message is still perfectly preserved...
Sometimes I've found myself crouching over an ancestral stone, carefully peeling the obscuring ivy away, nervously looking over my shoulder in case someone's going to come up and accuse me of vandalism to their churchyard...
Keith

Offline Jane Masri

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,275
  • My back garden
    • View Profile
Re: Grave Stones
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 February 05 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Deadants,
Thanks for those three links, they were very interesting, reminded me of brass-rubbing days.  I think we used to use cobblers wax to take the rubbings.

Jane
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Researching BRABY/BRAVERY in SURREY and SUSSEX

PLEASE use the look-up requests page not a personal message.

Offline Boongie Pam

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • *******
  • Posts: 2,548
  • Pa is Scottish, Ma is Welsh, Nose is Roamin'
    • View Profile
Re: Grave Stones
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 February 05 17:32 GMT (UK) »

Rod Neeps page on transcription projects covers all the bases - an excellent site all together.

http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/graves/recording.htm

Cheers,
Pam
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
~~~~~~~~~~~

Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

Online intermittently!