Mary Reynolds/Madden marriage

[lizdb]

Well, if Charlotte Burr b. 1857 and in 1861 is the same as Charlotte Reynolds b. 1857 and in 1871, her mother (Mary Ann Sibley or Burr?) must have married John Reynolds at some point (post 1857 and pre 1871).

Didnt you find that marriage? Sept 1862 Uxbridge.(see post no. 12 when you put it all together!)

[Necromancer]

The Mary Ann Burr I see in the Uxbridge area 1851/61 was born in Hayes, Middx

So if she's linked to the Charlotte aged 4 with Gparents (God Parents ? ) Sibley in the 1861, theres still work to do 

If Charlotte was a child of the Sibleys son Jesse, where does the name Burr come from - really need that Birth Cert ..... 

[lizdb]

Aha I see what you mean.

You are thinking of the Sibleys being paternal grandparents are you?

I was thinking of them as maternal - ie parents (or mother and stepdad)  of Charlottes mum (Mary Ann)

thus either

a) MAry Ann was born a Sibley, but married a Mr Burr, had Charlotte, then married Mr Reynolds etc
or
b) Mary Ann was born Burr, had Charlotte who was illegitimate, but that MAry Ann's mum later married William Sibley ...

there are probably other scenarios to.

But it is silly (though I will still do it!) surmising on various possibilities without that birth cert to give us a clue, and indicate if we are on the right track.

[Necromancer]

You are thinking of the Sibleys being paternal grandparents are you?

no, I was wondering if Charlottes mother was a dau of the Sibleys - see my earlier posts about the daughter Ann....

JoRose mentioned Jesse ....

Actually I wonder if one of the two sons shown in 1841 is the father. Jesse Sibley (aged 7 in 1841) may be the one who dies in early 1862 but I can't see him in 1861

I've advocated the Birth Cert since earliest post 

[m1ldmay4]

Received the marriage cert of Richard Buttler and Charlotte Ann Burr/Reynolds. No Father or Mother's names on it. Awaiting the birth cert of Charlotte.

On another different note, does anyone have any ideas how I would go about tracking down what happened to my Grandfather's twin sister, Maud Ellen Brunger born March 1890 in Lambeth. I have the birth cert and see her living with brother and parents in the 1891 census but she then disappears. Her Mother Charlotte dies in 1893 and Father in 1895 so I am assuming she was adopted? In the 1901 census her Brother Alfred (My Grandfather) is living with family Martin and shows as Nephew to the head. No sign of Maud. Any suggestions?

[Necromancer]

New thread would be best 

[carol8353]

Agree with LKL,start a new therad with a new heading for Maud.

Back to the Burr /Reynolds marriage cert,can you tell us what it DOES say.
Which church,exact date,addresses,jobs,ages and witnesses are often all very helpful.

Don't either of them have their fathers names listed?

Carol

[m1ldmay4]

4th November 1876. Richard Buttler (30) and Charlotte Ann Burr/Reynolds (20). Married in Parish of St. Mary Bourne, Southampton. He is a labourer. No profession for Charlotte. Both living in St. Mary Bourne at time of marriage - no address. No Father's names. Witnesses could not write as 'Mark X' is made.

In 1881 they both seem to be living in Lambeth in the same dwelling as a Sophia Brunger, Alfred and Edward Brunger and Mary Reynolds (Shown as Mother-in-Law). Also shows Richard as paralysed. The Alfred Brunger is the one she later marries in 1888. That marriage cert shows her Father's name as John William Reynolds (Deceased), even though she was born a Burr? Hoping to receive Birth Cert soon.

[m1ldmay4]

Ok, I have Charlotte's birth cert.

January 1st 1857 in Hillingdon, MIDDX. Born Charlotte Burr. Father's name George Burr. Mother's name MARY BURR late SLATER Formerly LACEY. So her Mother was a Lacey, married a Slater and then married a Burr?? Followed later on by a Reynolds. She got around a bit if that is true!!

Aha I see what you mean.

You are thinking of the Sibleys being paternal grandparents are you?

I was thinking of them as maternal - ie parents (or mother and stepdad)  of Charlottes mum (Mary Ann)

thus either

a) MAry Ann was born a Sibley, but married a Mr Burr, had Charlotte, then married Mr Reynolds etc
or
b) Mary Ann was born Burr, had Charlotte who was illegitimate, but that MAry Ann's mum later married William Sibley ...

there are probably other scenarios to.

But it is silly (though I will still do it!) surmising on various possibilities without that birth cert to give us a clue, and indicate if we are on the right track.