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Devine/Bonar
« on: Sunday 12 April 09 01:08 BST (UK) »
Trying  to find gggrandfather and mother Francis Devine who married Margaret Bonar 15 May 1859 at Lifford Co Donegal trying to ind out where they came from.

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Re: Devine/Bonar
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 April 09 08:31 BST (UK) »
You dont say if you have their marriage certificate/details yet.
If not, then that should be your first action, as without fathers details and residences at the time of their marriage, it will be difficult to be sure any record that is found is actually your ancestors.
Certificates can be obtained from : http://www.groireland.ie/

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Re: Devine/Bonar
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 April 09 10:16 BST (UK) »
You dont say if you have their marriage certificate/details yet.
If not, then that should be your first action, as without fathers details and residences at the time of their marriage, it will be difficult to be sure any record that is found is actually your ancestors.
Certificates can be obtained from : http://www.groireland.ie/

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However, if they married in a Catholic ceremony there will be no marriage certificate as registration of Catholic marriages in Ireland began in 1864 (other marriages had begun registration in 1845).
Index to Irish civil registrations is online on LDS Pilot site. Check for bride and then groom and cross reference details for same registration district, year, volume and page number.
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
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Re: Devine/Bonar
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I don't have marriage certificate I got the details from their daughter's birth certificate.  They must have left Ireland and came to Scotland sometimes in the 1860s.  I will follow the link and see if I can come up with anything


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Re: Devine/Bonar
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:20 BST (UK) »
This Donegal Resources website is the best one that I have found with a decent amount of information on Donegal

You may need to look in Strabane as well (its in present day Northern Ireland) as prior to independence there was no border.

Grant in Tipperary
Piper in Tipperary
Blong in Leix
Watson in Offaly
Pugh in North Wales
Evans in North Wales
Proctor in Edinburgh
Steedman in Stirling

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Re: Devine/Bonar
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I don't have marriage certificate I got the details from their daughter's birth certificate.  They must have left Ireland and came to Scotland sometimes in the 1860s.  I will follow the link and see if I can come up with anything


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First thing to establish is whether or not the marriage is listed in civil index (link given earlier). If so, you can order the marriage certificate which will list details like date and place of marriage, residence of bride and groom, occupations, their fathers' names and occupations, whether or not of full age  and names of two witnesses.

If the marriage took place in a Catholic church before 1864 tehn there will be no certificate and you will need to search for the church record (if it exists). The details in church records vary greatly so it's hard to know what information might be listed.
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Re: Devine/Bonar
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you

They were catholic, so no certificate registered.  Also no match on LDS.

I will try the other link.




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Re: Devine/Bonar
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 April 09 19:01 BST (UK) »
While they may have both been Catholic it is worth checking civil index in case they got married in Registry Office (more common than many people realise).
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Re: Devine/Bonar
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 April 09 19:30 BST (UK) »
okay will do that and let you know