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ITALY name of place help please
« on: Sunday 12 April 09 15:04 BST (UK) »
Wonder if anyone can help. I have a relative search of the family name MELANDRI. I have census in Britain showing Vincenzo Melandri coming from a place called either Noyorum Glote or Aoyorum Glate/Glote/Grote - it is not clear to read the precise spelling . I have been told by other family members that they believe it may be near or part of Faenza in Italy. I have looked through old maps and new online as much as possible, and am unable to find anything of that names or anything at all similar. Vincenzo who it says was a hotel keeper in Italy and his son Guiseppe were in London showing in census for 1861. Vincenzo I believe was born about 1815 and his son Guiseppe was born about 1846. There is no mention of Vincenzo's wife ( so maybe she had died before coming to Britain ?) . I have lots of info on the family once established in Britain. Then Vincenzo disappears again on census in Britain after 1883 ( when his second wife has died). So he may have returned to Italy - as there is no sign of his death here. If anyone can give me any help to at least finding the proper name maybe of where Vincenzo and Guiseppe may have come from that would at least give me a chance to try and find his first wife and mother of Guiseppe !!! All help most gratefully received. Thanks for reading all this !!!!

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Re: ITALY name of place help please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 April 09 17:38 BST (UK) »
these are the villages in and around Faenza, cant see any possibles.

In the territory of Faenza also rise the villages of Accarisi - La Rotta (12,68 km), Albereto (13,17 km), Basiago (8,18 km), Benedetta (2,78 km), Borgo Cavaliera (7,93 km), Borgo Liverano (4,64 km), Borgo Moretti (11,22 km), Borgo Prati (10,81 km), Borgo Sant`Andrea (6,04 km), Canavera (4,54 km), Cascina (5,49 km), Case Babini (12,54 km), Case Calzolaio - Palazzo (5,96 km), Case San Martino (1,85 km), Casetti (4,77 km), Cassanigo (6,26 km), Castel Raniero (4,38 km), Celle (4,32 km), Celletta (3,52 km), Corleto (10,64 km), Cosina (9,37 km), Crociaro (13,63 km), Errano (6,20 km), Felisio (6,31 km), Filippina (4,23 km), Formellino (4,99 km), Fornace di Sarna (3,10 km), Fossolo (15,12 km), Granarolo (10,15 km), Graziola (3,94 km), La Palazza (4,58 km), Le Tombe (12,57 km), Mano - Laviana (8,03 km), Marzeno (7,10 km), Mezzeno (5,61 km), Modigliana (2,28 km), Monte Brullo (6,98 km), Oriolo (8,38 km), Orto Fiori (5,35 km), Osteria della Rosa (13,00 km), Pergola (8,10 km), Pettinara (3,66 km), Piazzetta (10,24 km), Pieve Cesato (10,46 km), Pieve Ponte (3,93 km), Pila Sant`Andrea (6,79 km), Pilastri - Osteria Buonamici (9,43 km), Ponticello (7,80 km), Prada (16,67 km), Punta dei Prati - Casetti di Mezzeno (6,33 km), Quintina (14,31 km), Reda (10,77 km), Rivalta (5,62 km), Ronco (7,86 km), Saldino (9,11 km), San Barnaba (7,79 km), San Biagio (8,51 km), San Giorgio (15,95 km), San Giovannino (6,63 km), San Mamante - Case Lenzuola (7,23 km), San Martino (3,05 km), San Pietro in Laguna (3,65 km), San Procolo al Ponte (5,75 km), San Prospero (3,33 km), San Silvestro (3,28 km), Santa Lucia (6,23 km), Santa Lucia delle Spianate (-- km), Sant`Orsola (3,22 km), Sarna (7,36 km), Scuole San Pier Laguna (4,15 km), Tebano (10,28 km), Villa Mano (6,73 km).
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Re: ITALY name of place help please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 April 09 17:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks for looking and list - it is very long !!! I have in fact just been told on another forum that the place is probably Glorie near Ravenna. So with that as a possible I am going to see if there is anywhere online that I may be able to track down a birth  registration in and around that area for Guiseppe. Do you by any chance know if there is anywhere online to find such a thing ??

Thanks for your help

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Crosbie, Crosby, Black, Woods, Johnstone, Kelly, Howatt, McMillan, Wauchope Scott, Smith, Gibbons, Roberts, Hildred, Jones, Hughes. Curran, Palmer. Hughes, Jones, Wilcox, wilbraham, owen
Liverpool, Dumfriesshire, Kirkudbrightshire, Cheshire, Flintshire, llanrwst, trefriw, Lincolnshire, America, Canada, New Zealand.


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Re: ITALY name of place help please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 April 09 17:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all these will start trawling !(!!!!!!!!!

Happy Easter and many thanks for help. :) :)

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Re: ITALY name of place help please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:03 BST (UK) »
have you also seen the entries on lds for malandri.  looks like your man vincenzo is there.  it also looks like the name malandri certainly hails from the area around ravenna.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp
Crosbie, Crosby, Black, Woods, Johnstone, Kelly, Howatt, McMillan, Wauchope Scott, Smith, Gibbons, Roberts, Hildred, Jones, Hughes. Curran, Palmer. Hughes, Jones, Wilcox, wilbraham, owen
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Re: ITALY name of place help please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:07 BST (UK) »
just type in the surname melandri without dates etc.  and you will get quite a few names up.


Crosbie, Crosby, Black, Woods, Johnstone, Kelly, Howatt, McMillan, Wauchope Scott, Smith, Gibbons, Roberts, Hildred, Jones, Hughes. Curran, Palmer. Hughes, Jones, Wilcox, wilbraham, owen
Liverpool, Dumfriesshire, Kirkudbrightshire, Cheshire, Flintshire, llanrwst, trefriw, Lincolnshire, America, Canada, New Zealand.

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Re: ITALY name of place help please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:12 BST (UK) »
Have just had a look at the  site you suggested and yes that is definitely Vincenzo as I have that address. No sign of his son 's birth shame as can't find that anywhere nor Vincenzo's wife /Guiseppe's mother's name. Will keep looking through the other sites you suggested.

THANKS! :)

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Re: ITALY name of place help please
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 April 09 18:38 BST (UK) »
hi libbs,

did you look at the household of vincenza, 

    Household:

 Name    Relation   Marital Status   Gender   Age   Birthplace   Occupation   Disability
 Vincenzo MELANDRI     Head     M     Male     67     Italy     Cook (Dining Room)     
 Ellen MELANDRI     Wife     M     Female     52     Nottingham, England          
 Atilis MELANDRI     Son     U     Male     22     St Martin In The Fields     Waiter     
 Vincenzo MELANDRI     Son     U     Male     18     St James West          
 Earnest MELANDRI     Son     U     Male     15     St Anns Soho          
 Nicola DE GIGEOR     Servant     U     Male     50     Naples, Italy     Cook     
Crosbie, Crosby, Black, Woods, Johnstone, Kelly, Howatt, McMillan, Wauchope Scott, Smith, Gibbons, Roberts, Hildred, Jones, Hughes. Curran, Palmer. Hughes, Jones, Wilcox, wilbraham, owen
Liverpool, Dumfriesshire, Kirkudbrightshire, Cheshire, Flintshire, llanrwst, trefriw, Lincolnshire, America, Canada, New Zealand.