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Offline Avalon

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Bertha NITOBE
« on: Monday 13 April 09 10:32 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am looking to find any info on Bertha Nitobe, I first found her 1931 Electoral roll. I can not find a birth, marriage or death record.

Her parents I think are Henry/Harry Nitobe and Alice King, they married 1905 Geelong....

I have found some info where Henry went to Japan 1926.

Maybe he did not returned and maybe Alice remarried....this is guess work :D

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Yorkshire: Farnell, Backhouse
Wiltshire: Jones
Donegal: Doherty, McHugh > Kilmacrenan
Donegal: Doherty, Sweeney > Clondavaddog
Cork: Murphy, Cullinane > Newmarket/Dunmanway
Durham: Oughton..married into family..Swinney, Pattison, Yellowley, Cain
Dorset: Vincent
Devon: Vincent
Bristol: Trott
Renfrewshire: King > Glasgow, Greenock
Devon: Gilbury

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Re: Bertha NITOBE
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 April 09 12:01 BST (UK) »
Hello  there

If you  found her on  the  1931 roll  then  her birth would have been  up  to  1910, you had to be 21 to vote  then.

Interesting  will have a search about,

Harry NITOBE Married Alice WINTER in 1905  in Geelong.

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Re: Bertha NITOBE
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 April 09 12:10 BST (UK) »

Hi

I agree...I have searched Vic, NSW, QLD bdm....I have a feeling her Mum Alice King may have married again....few members of the family went to NSW....

the name Nitobe is very unusual....interesting no clues for a marriage or death

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Yorkshire: Farnell, Backhouse
Wiltshire: Jones
Donegal: Doherty, McHugh > Kilmacrenan
Donegal: Doherty, Sweeney > Clondavaddog
Cork: Murphy, Cullinane > Newmarket/Dunmanway
Durham: Oughton..married into family..Swinney, Pattison, Yellowley, Cain
Dorset: Vincent
Devon: Vincent
Bristol: Trott
Renfrewshire: King > Glasgow, Greenock
Devon: Gilbury

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Re: Bertha NITOBE
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 April 09 12:30 BST (UK) »
Just  to confirm  with  you  was her mother's name WINTER  or King  please

JEnn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Bertha NITOBE
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 April 09 12:47 BST (UK) »
sorry Jenn

her name is Alice Winter on the marriage certificate.

she was born Alice King 1883 VIC....father unknown

Avalon
Yorkshire: Farnell, Backhouse
Wiltshire: Jones
Donegal: Doherty, McHugh > Kilmacrenan
Donegal: Doherty, Sweeney > Clondavaddog
Cork: Murphy, Cullinane > Newmarket/Dunmanway
Durham: Oughton..married into family..Swinney, Pattison, Yellowley, Cain
Dorset: Vincent
Devon: Vincent
Bristol: Trott
Renfrewshire: King > Glasgow, Greenock
Devon: Gilbury

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Re: Bertha NITOBE
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 April 09 14:06 BST (UK) »
If you look at the National Archives site

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

and search the records (click on Namesearch next to the photo of the person near the bottom of the page) for Nitobe you will find two references, one for Henry Nakashima NITOBE, Japanese National, b 11 April 1869, first arrival 1898, first registered St Kilda; the second for  a similar name stating he left in 1926.  You can oder copes of these documents by following the links.

Cheers, Judith

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Re: Bertha NITOBE
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 06:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith

I sent away for that info, the info was great, photo of Henry, but no info on his wife and family.

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Yorkshire: Farnell, Backhouse
Wiltshire: Jones
Donegal: Doherty, McHugh > Kilmacrenan
Donegal: Doherty, Sweeney > Clondavaddog
Cork: Murphy, Cullinane > Newmarket/Dunmanway
Durham: Oughton..married into family..Swinney, Pattison, Yellowley, Cain
Dorset: Vincent
Devon: Vincent
Bristol: Trott
Renfrewshire: King > Glasgow, Greenock
Devon: Gilbury

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Re: Bertha NITOBE
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 06:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith

I sent away for that info, the info was great, photo of Henry, but no info on his wife and family.

Avalon

Do  you  think that  Bertha  is  the couple's daughter?  going by  the  surname?
I  cannot see a birth for  her in Victoria myself.

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au

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Re: Bertha NITOBE
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 07:11 BST (UK) »
Hello Jenn

No I am not 100% sure....the name is very unusual....I think its possible....I could not find a birth in VIC, NSW & QLD

I think perhaps she was born under another name.

Avalon

Yorkshire: Farnell, Backhouse
Wiltshire: Jones
Donegal: Doherty, McHugh > Kilmacrenan
Donegal: Doherty, Sweeney > Clondavaddog
Cork: Murphy, Cullinane > Newmarket/Dunmanway
Durham: Oughton..married into family..Swinney, Pattison, Yellowley, Cain
Dorset: Vincent
Devon: Vincent
Bristol: Trott
Renfrewshire: King > Glasgow, Greenock
Devon: Gilbury