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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 17:12 BST (UK) »
I don´t know if this is the same article that you already found:

http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1999907

An article in the Argus, 8 Nov 1923 which describes the court case in which Ernest was a witness against James Thomas Jones, farmer, and Charles Edwin Jones, salesman, who were accused [and convicted] of cheating and defrauding several people including Ernest himself.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 17:21 BST (UK) »
IGI has records (submitted):
Ernest Edward Warren born 1871 Grace Harbour died 6 May 1925

Death Jun qtr 1925

Ernest E. WARREN aged 53

Whitechapel 1c 190


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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 17:29 BST (UK) »
Yes, that was the article-very odd I thought, about the lost memory- it made me wonder if that Ernest was totally an innocent victim, and whether it is the same Ernest as the Canada one. I saw the death registration- looks like I should buy the cert to find out if its the same man-or one of them-  I didnt before because I had always assumed that my Ernest should have died in Australia-- first thing tomorrow I will have a £7 punt!!
thank-you again, sally
WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 17:43 BST (UK) »
There is an Ernest E. Warren listed in the 1919 Sydney & NSW directory at Roscrae Ave., R’wick.  [no occupation mentioned, no Julia at that address]
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis


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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 18:18 BST (UK) »
mmm--so if he is the same man as on the Australind, he was based in Australia at least at 1919, is this a "postal" directory,or a trades directory? I mean, could he be listed as you would be in a phone book even though he may not often be at that address??
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WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 18:48 BST (UK) »
It's called Sands Directories: Sydney and New South Wales, Australia.  Ancestry has the directories for most years from 1858 to 1933.  I'm going to check some other years to see if I can turn him up.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 19:10 BST (UK) »
1920 – Ernest E. Warren, Roscrae Ave., R’wick. 
1924 - Ernest E. Warren, Villier’s Ave., Pensh’st
1925 - Ernest E. Warren, Villier’s Ave., Pensh’st

Sorry, but this appears to be a red herring.  There is an Ernest E. Warren listed at that last address until at least 1931.

Why don't you post a message on the Australia board to see if someone there can find out more details about the trial?  That might shed some light on what the scandal was [if it is the right Ernest and the right scandal].
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 15 April 09 08:33 BST (UK) »
Thank-you so much for these details--brilliant.
Well, that seems to mean that the EEW in the Directories is not the one who died in London, but I suppose it might still be the one involved in the trial, and it might still be the one married to my Julia, Great result though! I shall take your good advice and try the Australia board- and hold off from ordering the death certificate just yet--- Thank-you , Sally


Link to thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,375395.0.html
WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore

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Re: The Mysterious Ernest Warren.
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 15 April 09 14:24 BST (UK) »
Karen---
"About, the burial, maybe he's buried in England, but they have made reference to him on the stone in NFLD and someone has assumed his body is in the grave"

Ah- just realized what you meant, how stupid of me!!! Of course its a commemoration, why would you take a body all the way back to Canada when the other half of the family are in England. Thank-you!!!
WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore