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Re: Who married who? Who belongs to who? Bell/Elliot
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 April 09 13:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruskie

Have you got the 1940 marriage certin Carlisle?  That should at least give her father's name and occupation.


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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 16 April 09 13:35 BST (UK) »
IGI submitted entries (3) have them marrying in Canonbie in 1840 - haven't found them on the BMDs for Carlisle yet  :-\
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 16 April 09 13:37 BST (UK) »
On SP as marrying 2 Oct 1840 in Canonbie. I'll see if it has any other details.
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Re: Who married who? Who belongs to who? Bell/Elliot
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 16 April 09 13:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget, I'm signed out of Rootschat for a few minutes, but am back now  ;D There are a number of submitted records on the IGI for this family.

Sorry Gadget, I messed up by saying William and Jessie married in Carlisle.  :-[ It should be Canonbie. I will amend the error.

Not too important in the quest, but just for completeness, I've found Ellen (Watson) and family still in Durham in the 1881 census. She is a now a widow.  :-\


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Re: Who married who? Who belongs to who? Bell/Elliot
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 16 April 09 13:47 BST (UK) »
I don't believe there are any further details on the Bell/Brown marriage on SP.

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 16 April 09 13:50 BST (UK) »
The Ellen is a bit of a puzzle if she's not Hel(l)en  :-\

No info on the marriage entry. Is it worth trying to work out something from the children's names - or looking at Middlebie Browns having children around 1800-1820. Not a lot on the IGI for there as I found earlier  :(


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Re: Who married who? Who belongs to who? Bell/Elliot
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 16 April 09 14:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all your help Gadget. I'll do as you suggest.  :D

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 16 April 09 14:19 BST (UK) »
SP has the following Bro*n*  couples having children in Midlebie 1800-1820

David Brown and Agness/Nancy  Irving   - Gavin Mary and Nanny (1809, 1811 and 1813 - so that rules out having a Jessie at the probable time)
Walter Brown and Grace Camble (sic) - Hellen
John Brown and Marion Bell - Jane
Richard Brown and Betty Moffat - John


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Re: Who married who? Who belongs to who? Bell/Elliot
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 16 April 09 14:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks for those names Gadget. IGI also has an Agness with father William in 1793 (maybe a bit early  :-\)

Odd thing is, out of all those names the only one Jessie used for her (known) children is Grace, and perhaps Agnes (if Agnes = Nancy in this case).

[I also just realised that I made a mistake about the Wilhelmina connection. I got confused (again  :-\) - it was John and Jessie (Brown) Elliot who named their daughter Wilhelmina. And William Bell married a Wilhelmina Armstrong ... got the sides of the family mixed up.]

We don't have a marriage date for John Elliot and Jessie Brown's marriage, but Elliot children from census are:
James 1831
Frances 1836
Wilhelmina 1838
[Jessie married William in 1840] - children are:
Isabella 1843
Margaret 1845
Grace 1846
Helen 1849
Agnes 1852
So many girls! .... but looking at the names perhaps a Frances might be Jessie's mother?  :-\