South Africa births help HANKS

[Danchaslyn]

iwonder_who

 

Wow, that is great news.....................what a step forward, congratulations!

Now, if the principal just could put you in touch with the Old Boys and Old Girl's of the School Society,  (most schools in SA have, or had one!!!), someone there might help you further?

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 

[iwonder_who]

Hi again .......  an update on this post and request for more help please :-)

OK school has no "old boys" assocaition sadly.   I did contact a researcher in South Africa who said scant information on the family but did find a  an estate file for
 Herbert Harry Edgar HANKS who died in  South Africa in 1911.

This was a brother to the girls who was fathered by John Stanton but obviously like the mothers other son to Stanton adopted the name HANKS when Harry and Agnes got together.

I am assuming he died where the girls were born in Johannesburg ....  how do I go about finding more details....  seeing if any pictures exist of his grave  etc.

Many thanks
Yvonne

[Danchaslyn]

 

Hello iwonder_who   

Have you tried trawling through the entire S.African archives site,  N.A.A.I.R.S.?   

Not easy if you are not familiar with the geographical locations..........but, if you haven't I will try for you later on.   

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 

[Danchaslyn]

 

Hello Yvonne

Searched the N.A.A.I.R.S. site, and many, many references to various 'Stantons'........and on the NASA site of NAAIRS, 534 documents relating to various Stantons.

If you can get into the site, I recommend you do.

Of interest:  GG,  E.W. Stanton, Application of Assisted Passage to Australia, 1917, Vol. 1028, REf:  41/340.

Also, quite a few male Stantons' death notices, all in 1910- 1911.

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 

[iwonder_who]

HI Danchaslyn

Thanks I will definately have a look at that site!

I am confused now as this son was not fathered by Hanks yet when he died he used that name instead of Stanton.  Pretty sure Agnes & Harold did not marry in SA as they told their children later that they married in Australia  (despite no record in Australia being found lol)

I did find a site with some graves around J'Bg area but none of the Stantons matched.  Perhaps better relook under Hanks.

Have a feeling this leg of my tree will never go any further back without something to attach Harold to in relation to where he came from.  Oh well guess that happens.

[Danchaslyn]

 

Hello Yvonne

Well, ........well, well, have a look also, in case you haven't already, in IGI Family Search, and look for your Stantons, in South Africa.   

Again, confusing information, and in one case, a WHOLE FAMILY tree, including some English family members, South African and Australian!   

With my family, I'm usually disappointed in IGI, as I can't find them, and certainly had difficulty finding 'Hanks', but with Stanton, you can hit the jackpot!!   

Please let me know if you need any help in NAAIRS..........

Good luck!   

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 

[Danchaslyn]

 

Hello Yvonne

Will this be of any help?:

        From IGI, Family Search:  Harold Hanks, b. 1899, Plumstead, Kent, England

                                                Father:  Henry Hanks, b.1863, Dartford, London, Kent, Eng

                                                Mother:  Esther,  b. 1868, Deptford, Kent, England

                               Henry and Esther married 1844 at Deptford, Kent, England

Cheers

Danchaslyn

 

[iwonder_who]

HI again,  I do appreciate your interest and advice  :-)

OK looked again on IGI but none of the Stanton names were ours.   Looks like Agnes used Hanks as her surname from when they had their 1st child to him and her sons then used it also.  Since the original Stanton father was in England and no doubt had no idea of her whereabouts I assume the name held no sentimental value lol

I did find one thing on NAAIRS but have NO idea what it means lol.  depot is TAB  Source  is MHG (which I see is MHG - Master of the Supreme Court, Pretoria. Estates)
 Type is LEER  reference 19179  it has Herbert Harry Edgar Hanks and 1911  so am assuming its about Herbert's death as it says 1911.  The researcher I contacted did say she found en estate file but did warn it may not say too much and had to be collected in person.  Am considering getting this just wish I had something else to grab as her minimum rate is 2hours and US$20ph so makes it an expensive piece of paper that may say nothing lol

The IGI for Harold Hanks seems way too early...  he was born around  1873..... 26  years difference.  Family seems to think he may have been born in Germany or Denmark thats why I am so eager to find some link from South Africa to where he did come from as it's all guess work.

Cheers
Yvonne

[Danchaslyn]

 

Hello Yvonne

Think you are on a right track and that the reference in N.A.A.I.R.S. you found is an Estate Notice, (which maybe appeared about  two years or so after his death), as far as I know, 'MSCE' is the abbreviation they use in NAAIRS for a Death.

TAB, from NAAIRS means that the notification was in the old Transvaal Republic division of the courts.  Johannesburg, i,e. Jeppestown, lol, was in TAB!      

As its 1911, the 'event' could have been anytime before that. With one of my family, the death in NAAIRS is given as 1940 - 1943! but that is definitely under a MSCE.

Try reading through this Sticky, in RC, S. Africa, for some advice   -  "obtaining copies of documents from the SA Archives", by EmPea.


Personally, I'm not in favour of sites that demand fees/membership.

Yvonne, ditch your researcher!!!     many, very kind and knowledgeable folk here in RC to help you.  Just post perhaps now in Denmark, or Germany.  Try reading my post in RC, Europe, "Moe Family of Norway", that may give you some ideas?!   

Also, someone with ances*ry membership, I'm sure, could easily find what you need? 

Good hunting

Cheers

Danchaslyn