10th Manchester Regiment, WW1

[ManU]

Hi
The only info I have of James cook is
Born 1901/1902 Manchester
Father Robert
Believed to be living in Wright St Manchester in 1911 census
Married 1931 to Mary Ellen was described as a brick layer
Lived in Miles Platting
Died in 1935 widow described him as discharged soldier
hope that helps

[heywood]

Hi,

I posted that one because you mentioned Oldham - not that one then!

Heywood

[ManU]

Sorry Heywood
I tagged on the end of a topic that was about the 10th Manchester Regiment in Oldham - I wasn't sure where they were based and now I believe it is Ashton-Under-Lyne ??

[heywood]

That's where the museum is but I don't think it has service records. He could have been in other regiments.

[Wendi]

If he served after 1920 his records would be held by the Ministry of Defense and details of how to obtain them are under the heading "Request for service records of deceased service personnel" at this web address

https://www.gov.uk/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records

Wendi

[Wendi]

This is my transcription of 17 Wright Street, Manchester in the 1901 Census, showing his Grandmother as head of the household.  As he is not on the Census it is reasonable to assume that he was not born until after 31st March 1901.

Alice    Heaton    Head    Married    Female    57    1844    Charwoman    Manchester,
Catherine    Cook Daughter    Married    Female    28    1873    Charwoman    Manchester
Albert Edward Cook    Grand Son    -    Male    7    1894    -    Manchester
John Charles    Cook    Grand Son    -    Male    5    1896    -    Manchester,
John Edward Prestley    Nephew    Widower    Male    40    1861    Carter General    Manchester
Elizabeth    Prestley    Grand Niece    -    Female    17    1884    Cotton Factory Operative Piecer    Manchester
Ellen    Prestley    Grand Niece    -    Female    12    1889    -    Manchester

Wendi

[heywood]

Perhaps he joined up after marriage and the discharge was health related.
Were there any children born to the couple? If so, what was his occupation?

[Wendi]

Not to muddy the waters too much! but as I can't find James' father on the 1901 census there is a Robert Cook who joined the 3rd Battalion of The Manchester Regiment in 1885 at the age of 17 years 7 months.  He may have been in South Africa on the Census date. http://www.tameside.gov.uk/museumsgalleries/mom/history/3rd

Oh and Mary Ellen's maiden name was Hindley.

Wendi

[ManU]

Hi Guys
The 1901 census is correct I originally searched for the Father Robert-wife Catherine but couldnot find him then a few months later found his enlistment form and realised that's why he was not on the census.
I have not fully determined the Priestleys as yet but I know they were related
Yes John Cooks wife was Mary Ellen Hindley she and John had 5 kids the last one was about 2 months prior to his death in 1935
No John joined up before his marriage
The fee for getting his records from MOD is too high at this stage for me - I suppose I will have to wait til they become available online - I do believe he had major health issues possibly due to army life because at age 35 he committed suicide on the marriage certificate to Mary John is a bricklayer but his death cert says discharged soldier