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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 04:51 BST (UK) »
Margaretta immigrates to Canada circa 1873....
1881
Margareta Mole age 45 b. England occ. Nurse 
William  age 12 b. Eng
Harry age 10 b. Eng
Matrian age 13  b. Eng
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008182794.jpg
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1891
Margareta Mole age 52 b. England occ. Nurse
John  age 33 b. Eng
James age 25 b. Eng
William age 21 b. Eng
Harry age 19 b. Eng
Tom  age 17 b. Ont.
Ann age 14 b. Ont.
Ethel age 9  b. Ont.
Where are Tom & Ann in 1881, then?
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=2289018
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=2289023

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http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=31500&highlight=49
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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #10 on: Monday 10 August 09 22:13 BST (UK) »
Good question.....................They are certainly a difficult lot to pin down!  Not sure how much of that is down to them and how much is down to poor record keeping in those days to be honest.

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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 01:21 BST (UK) »
An IGI extracted marriage  April 24 1901, Manhattan N.Y New York      
Harry Leonard Mole born London, England
parents John Mole & Margaretta Robinson    
Spouse Clara Brown

and a birth for an Annie Edith Mole, Kingston, Frontenac, Ont.
Oct. 5th 1876, Kingston, Frontenac, Ontario
to John Mole and Margeretta Robinson
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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 01:55 BST (UK) »
The birth for Ethel May seems to be under the father:  "Harry Leonard Mole" so are those extras his children?
also a Harry Edmund Mole with "Harry Leonard Mole" as the father...Perhaps someone can confirm those dates and see what the mother's name was? perhaps she raised her son's children?
OOOOPs looked back at his age in 1881....and he'd have had to have been just a boy...was this an Uncle?
No, sorry... see my error...He named daughter after sister, I guess, as he's back in Canada for the 1911
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=50189&highlight=32
( Also we have the little George W born 1884...was she really that interested in having children at that late age, without a husband??? Where was he is the 1891? )
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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 07:35 BST (UK) »
The husband thing is a real mystery.  There is no way John Mole was father to any of the children born in Canada as he was imprisoned in England in 1873 for Bigamy (he married Margaretta when his 1st wife was still alive).

He ended his days in a workhouse, dying in 1894.

There is a chap who appears as witness at some of the Moles marriages in Canada and is also a witness on William Mole's Army Papers, he is H.Hitchen (or poss Kitchen).  I have a feeling he is dad to the others but why not named I don't know.

Thanks for the birth details for Harry, now I know he ended up in the USA so can do a bit of tracing of him there.

This side of the family aren't really direct ancestors but they are extremely interesting (I descend from John Mole & his 1st wife Sarah).

If you happen across any more gems I'd love to know.  Especially the death of Margaretta.

Thanks for your continued help.
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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 14:34 BST (UK) »
Just a death for an unamed baby in Toronto June 5, 1921, parents Harry & Clara back in Toronto again. Can't see a death for Margaretta...
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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 15:24 BST (UK) »
Those Mole's seem to cross the boarder a lot don't they?

I'm also getting a bit confused with Annie Edith Mole.  It appears that she began to change her name around to Edith A. Mole as she appears as such on the USA federal Census of 1910 living with her sister Jessie and her husband.  I also found a boarder crossing for Edith A. Mole, registered as a nurse (same as her mother Margaretta) and "seeking work".

I shall keep plugging away and see what turns up.

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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 15:58 BST (UK) »
Here is a Cox connection, so might be her mother....Margaretta entering Canada with family in 1873...

Margaretta 28 now there is a stretch for age  :P
Margeretta  16
Sarah 14
Emma  11
Miriam 9
James 7
William 3
Cox Margaret  65

so is Sarah now Jessie, and James...Emma...now more confusing than ever?

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-119.02-e.php?sisn_id_nbr=998&page_sequence_nbr=1&interval=20&PHPSESSID=69

I never posted this ages ago because she may have been to young to have remarried, but with all the strange evidence found so far, age 16 wasn't unusual...My first husband's Grandmother married at age 16...it may well have been that she was a young victim here as well...I think Margaretta may have been just as slighted in the whole scenario as the first wife...& am making an effort to be on her side....

Marriage June Quarter 1849
Margaret Cox / Lancaster vol.21  p.401
a Joseph Robinson on page
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Re: Death - Margaretta Mole
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 16:57 BST (UK) »
Margaretta 1914...  1 - 50 Armstrong ave... a rooming or apt. number so we can't trace her by address  & Wm listed 83 Southerland
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec191400midiuoft#page/n1174/mode/1up
G Kitchen may have also been William's boss, or even a friend. Here is a Toronto 1914 listing
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec191400midiuoft#page/n1007/mode/1up
No Margaretta in 1917/1918 ...Harry L. listed on Millicent, so he lives in Canada for quite a while
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec191700midiuoft#page/n1221/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec191800midiuoft#page/n1027/mode/1up

and lots more if you want to look through more
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