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Burnet, Ladykirk
« on: Tuesday 28 April 09 23:42 BST (UK) »
Looking for information on family of Francis Burnet and Margaret Maule of Ladykirk. Their daughter, Elizabeth b c 1796 married John Somerville of Haddington and died there 5 Nov 1860. I do not have the date of her marriage, but think it was mid 1830s, nor any other information on siblings or her parents. any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Burnet, Ladykirk
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 01:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

The IGI throws up an extracted record  sibling for your Elizabeth:

Jean BURNET chr 15 Dec 1793, Ladykirk - parents: Francis BURNET and Margaret MALL

On the same Batch number are the following 3 entries with parents named: Robert BURNET and Elizabeth LOGAN
Isabel BURNET chr 14 Apr 1794
Jean BURNET chr 23 Apr 1797
Margaret BURNET chr 24 Nov 1804

Possibly, Robert BURNET is a sibling of Francis.
If you Google Burnet Ladykirk a good lot of stuff comes up regarding Robert. His wife died in 1855 and her death cert names all her children - one of them was named Francis.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~connochie/bdm/bewdeaths1855p1.html.

Also it seems only the BURNET female children were on that batch above. The 3 girls of Robert & Elizabeth as on the IGI are listed on the 1855 death cert.  There are also 7 boys of the family:

1. Isabella died age  17 in 1812
2. Jane age 57 in 1855
3. James age 54 in 1855
4. John died 1854 age 51
5. Margaret age 49 in 1855
6. Robert age 46 in 1855
7. William age 44 in 1855
8. Frances age 41 in 1855 (this is a male - other information shows he married and had children)
9. Thomas age 38 in 1855
10. Alexander age 35 in 1855

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Re: Burnet, Ladykirk
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 15:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ambly for these pointers. I wonder what catastrophy did the Burnet family come by that 11 of them should die in the same period, 1854/5.

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Re: Burnet, Ladykirk
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 15:39 BST (UK) »
Hi

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that - not quite a catastrophic as first read  ;D

........on the death cert for Elizabeth BURNET nee LOGAN - becasue it's an 1855 certificate - it lists the names and birth years of all the children she had birthed. If the children were alive it listed their present age  and if the children were dead it listed age and year of death. So at the time of Elizabeth's 1855 death, only 2 of her 10 children had predeceased her. The other 8 were all still living at the ages given. 

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Re: Burnet, Ladykirk
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 April 09 15:45 BST (UK) »
Apologies! I should have read more closely the first time!

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Re: Burnet, Ladykirk
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 April 09 10:18 BST (UK) »
Scottish certificates from the year 1855 can be priceless, the information contained on a certificate changed over time and those issued in 1855 were required to have more information than certificates issued in any other year.

Any oppurtunity for a certificate from that year is best grabbed with both hands. ;)

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Re: Burnet, Ladykirk
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 April 09 15:31 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I had my husband look at your post and this is what he's found, hope it helps:
 
Francis Burnet married Margaret Mall on 30 Apr 1788 at Ladykirk (IGI).
 
They had the following children (all from the Vital Records Index):
 
James chr. 25 Mar 1792 Ladykirk
Jean chr. 15 Dec 1793 Ladykirk
Elisabeth chr. 11 Jan 1796 Ladykirk
 

Robert Burnet married Elizabeth Logan.
 
They had the following children (all from the Vital Records Index):
 
Isabel chr. 14 Apr 1794 Ladykirk
Jean chr. 23 Apr 1797 Ladykirk
James chr. 13 Mar 1800 Ladykirk
John chr. 9 May 1802 Ladykirk
Margaret chr. 24 Nov 1804 Ladykirk
Unnamed male born 6 Mar 1808 Ladykirk
William b. 21 Dec 1810 Ladykirk
Frances (male) b. 20 Jul 1813 Ladykirk
Thomas chr. 28 Jan 1816 Ladykirk
Alexander b. 9 Jul 1818 Ladykirk
 

The 1811 Census of Ladykirk records Robert Burnet at Upsettlington working in agriculture with a household of
 
5 males and 4 females. No sign however of Francis and Margaret in this census.
 
© 1811 Census material — Crown Copyright. Reproduced from the Kirk Session records of Ladykirk Parish held at
 
the National Archives of Scotland, reference: CH2/660/4/3 - Published 2008 by Graham Maxwell Ancestry  - 
 
www.maxwellancestry.com/publishing
 

The 1831 Census of Ladykirk records Robert Burnet as a hind at Upsettlington, giving no further information
 
than that of "Gone to Fishwick Mains" (which is in the parish of Hutton, Berwickshire). It also lists James
 
Burnet (probably Robert's son) also as a hind living at Upsettlington, with three males and three females, one
 
male upward of 20 years of age.
 
© 1831 Census material — Crown Copyright. Reproduced from the Kirk Session records of Ladykirk Parish held at
 
the National Archives of Scotland, reference: CH2/660/5/2 - Published 2008 by Graham Maxwell Ancestry  - 
 
www.maxwellancestry.com/publishing
 
 
 
In the 1851 Census of Hutton, we find the following entry for Robert and Elizabeth:
 
Hutton Parish, Book 3, Page 10
Hutton Hall Barns
Robert Burnet; Head; Married; 81; Agricultural Labourer; Berwick, Eccles
Elizabeth Burnet; Wife; Married; 77; Berwick, Ladykirk
Jane Ford; Lodger; Married; 53; Carpenter’s Wife; Berwick, Ladykirk
 
© 1851 Census Data — General Register Office for Scotland. Crown copyright. Reproduced with the permission of
 
the Controller of the HMSO and Queen’s Printer for Scotland. Published 2004 by Graham Maxwell Ancestry
www.maxwellancestry.com/publishing
 
 
 
In the 1841 Census of Hutton, we see Robert and Elizabeth as follows:
 
Hutton Parish, Book 1, Page 18
Hutton Hall Barns Cottages
Robt. Burnet; 71; Ag: Lab:; Yes (born in the county)
Elizabeth Burnet; 68; Yes
 
© 1841 Census Data — General Register Office for Scotland. Crown copyright. Reproduced with the permission of
 
the Controller of the HMSO and Queen’s Printer for Scotland. Published 2006 by Graham Maxwell Ancestry
www.maxwellancestry.com/publishing
 
 
 
The 1851 Hutton census entry for Robert Burnet leads us to the family of James Burnet and his wife Jane or Janet Gardiner.
 
They had the following children (all from the Vital Records Index):
 
Frank chr. 8 Jun 1763 Eccles
Margaret chr. 18 Dec 1764 Eccles
Alexander chr. 7 May 1767 Eccles
Robert chr. 26 Jul 1769 Eccles
Jean chr. 27 Apr 1771 Eccles
 
This seems to match up well with the theory that Francis/Frank and Robert were brothers.
 

The following entries from the MIs for Birgham Burial Ground, Eccles parish seem to relate to this family:
 
12.
Jean Burnet wife to Robert Storry, indweller in Birgham 18 Jul 1812 aged 41 years. [On back:] James Storry in Birgham ? Feb 1804 aged 63 years.
 
25.
James Burnet, smith in Birgham 20 May 1802 aged 70 years.
 


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Re: Burnet, Ladykirk
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 April 09 18:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you ScottishAncestry, that fills in quite a lot of new detail. The one thing which I have not proven yet is that Francis and Robert Burnet were definitely siblings although Since one of Robert's sons was named Francis I would have thought it likely. I am conscious that there were other Burnets in the Ladykirk area around that time, eg the family of John Burnet the preacher who went to Canada. Do you have any info on Francis and Robert's parents?

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Re: Burnet, Ladykirk
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 May 09 16:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all your info.
This helps me too as Robert Burnet was my husband's 3xgr grandfather.

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