Joe Wade

[Postlethwaite]

I am trying to find information regarding my Grandfather Joe Wade.  All I know is that he owned the Derwent Lodge in Portinscale, near Keswick, Cumberland with his first wife in about 1920.  He seperated from his wife and bought High Snab Farm, in the Newlands Valley

[emmsthheight]

Hi Postlethwaite

Welcome to Rootschat!

I'm not sure what you've searched. 

I tried searchibg the 1911 census online for Joseph Wade in Cumberland.  There are only twpo. one in the Penrith Registration district and one in the Cockermouth Registration district,
.

Both of the [laces you gave would be registered under Cockermouth.

I then deleted "joseph" and just searched for Wade, but put "Joseph Wade" under the "Others in hoesehold" box.

I got half a dozen names including two tinies.  All under Cockermouth.

As well as Joe there are listed

Annie 3
Christiana W 21
Eleanor 28
John 6m
Jonathan R 29
Joseph W 27

All Wade people of other surnames would not show up by this method.

1911 isn't cheap to take loads off, and like most other people I've run out of credits.but for a special entry such as this, if this were my GrandfatherI would sign up and pay my £6.96 minimum to see the original with a few credits left.  Transcripts cost less but on an occasion such as this I would go for the original.

 It gives all names in the household, ages, relationships to head, fulladdress, occupations and also how long a couple have been in a current marriage and how many children born, alive and deceased.

I'll see what else I see.

I hope this helps.  Let us know how you get on

Best wishes

Emms

[Postlethwaite]

Hi Emms,

Thanks for the assistance.

After contacting family members over the weekend I have found out that my Grand Father, Joe Wade was probably born in Uppingham, Cleveland in 1884 and had a sister who was known as Annie.  The only other information I was able to glean was that his wifes name was Mercia

[emmsthheight]

Hi again.

Thank you for the feedback. 

I'll see what else I can find.

I did look on Lancashire bmd - see the link.

The marriage was at St Saviour, Bamber Bridge, Preston.  I can't see it listed as an RC church in Preston, and on this index they usually say, "Registrar attended"

I'll look again later.

There's more info to go at.  You could try searching 1911 with a birth place, Uppingham and see who else is in the household.

Best wishes

Emmes
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

[emmsthheight]

PS It might be worth a mention for this part of the query on the Lancashire board.

Emms

[Ecneps]

Only one Joseph Wade born Uppingham in 1911 census, he's in Penrith aged 25 but going by the index, not with any other family members surnamed Wade.  As Emms says, it may be worth looking at the full 1911 image to see his occupation

Uppingham is in Rutland.  There are two possible birth registrations for him:
Mar 1884 Uppingham  7a   329   WADE  Joseph Gladstone
Births Mar 1885 Uppingham  7a 349   WADE Joseph            

In 1901 there is this family, but you would need his marriage cert to confirm father's name:

RG13 Piece 3016 Folio 42 Page 5
North Street, Uppingham
WADE
Samuel S  56 Wheelwright  Gaulby, Leicestershire
Mary A      52                       Uppingham Rutland
Arthur       25 Wheelwright   Ilston  Lancs
Mary E      23  Dressmaker   Uppingham
Thomas S 22  Gardener (domestic)  "
Joseph     17 House servant (gentleman's house)  Uppingham
   

You say you can't find Joe's death, have you looked through the full GRO index for it, as freebmd isn't fully transcribed after about 1920

Barbara

[Postlethwaite]

Thanks Barbara,

There does not appear to be an Annie on that census, Annie was Joe's sister.

I am just grasping at straws.

Thanks anyway.

[Ecneps]

Of the two Uppingham birth registrations, the 1901 census I gave is for Joseph G Wade, which is how he's listed in 1891 census

The other Joseph may be this one, with Elizabeth A perhaps being sister Annie? (birth reg gives Elizabeth Ann) - or maybe his sister was Mercy??:

1891 RG12 Piece 2577 Folio 14 Page 20
Billinghay, Lincolnshire
WADE
Joseph    38  Cooper    Uppingham Rutland
Kezia?    44                   Helpringham Lincs
Elizabeth A 12 Scholar   Uppingham Rutland
John J        9        "                 "
Joseph      6        "                 "
Mercy        4                   Billinghay Lincs
Fanny BAVIN 15 General Servant domestic Billinghay


Barbara
   

[Woody32]

edited.