Help to find a marriage

[tinav40]

Any help appreciated as I just can't find a marriage for:
Joel Levi Abrahams to Sarah?
Must have been in Birmingham but I can't find it on Ancestry or by searching free bmd.
The 1911 census says they have been married for 30 years but nothing in 1880 - 81.
Roots chatters always come up trumps.
Thanks
Tina

[CaroleW]

Hi

Have you checked the 1881 census - were they married then?

Are they both English?  If not - could they have married in another country

[tinav40]

Hi
Yes,  in 1881 they were married and living with Joel's sister and her husband.



added
Joel was born in Bristol [ parents were from Holland and Poland} but the family moved to Birmingham not long after Joel was born as far as I can tell.
Sarah? I don't know I'm afraid.
Thanks

[nanny jan]

Hi,

Did they have children?  Sarah's maiden name will be on the birth certificate.


Nanny Jan

[tinav40]

Hi Nanny Jan
 Yes but I was just frustrated that I couldn't find a marriage.
Joel was my great grandfathers brother and I was really just trying to tie up some loose ends.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Tina

[CaroleW]

To help answer the questions we are asking - here is the 1891 census for the family - living in Warwickshire - all b Birmingham except Joel

Joel Abrahams 31  b Bristol Somerset
Sarah   31  
Leah  9  
Montague  7  
Alfred 5
RG12 Piece2397 Folio 105 Page 18

[nanny jan]

Hi,

Going sideways from 1881 census:

Lewis Coral   MarQ 1870    Birmingham   6d    250   (FreeBMD marriages)

possible bride:  Hannah    Levy

Sarah's sister?


Nanny Jan

[CaroleW]

Hi

Quite often freebmd shows an uneven number of male to female entries on the same page of a marriage transcript

Although there is no entry for Joel - there may be one for Sarah if we knew her maiden name

Any entry for Sarah can then be cross referred to match with an entry for Joel

[Barbara F]

Are you sure that Hannah in 1881 is Joel's sister?

Joel is shown as "Wife's brother in law" and Sarah is "Wife's sister"

There is this marriage

Mar 1870

Coral  Lewis    Birmingham  6d 250    
Hillner  Solomon     Birmingham  6d 250    
Levy  Hannah     Birmingham  6d 250    
MARKS  Sarah     Birmingham  6d 250

So maybe Sarah was a Levy?

Barbara