Arthur G PLANT 1870

[mamakaz]

hi there, x
          i already posted this in the North riding forum....and thanks to the link...
MUST SEE LINK If your ancestors came from Bucks posted by allycat i married up my
plants to their maternal lines.

          i was just wondering if anyone on RC is researching the plant family,
and if there are any plants out there that can claim this family?

my grt granny was Annie Plant 1903-1984 she married Charles Bruce Aitken in 1923,
i have their marriage cert which shows Arthur G Plant (platelayer) as her father,
 
so if anyone can claim and/or correct the info i have, would be great to hear rom you,
kaz, x

in the 1871 England Census
Arthur George Plant 1yrs b 1870/Son  born Charndon, Buckinghamshire,
dad, Joseph 30yrs b 1841 head born Charndon, Buckinghamshire
Mum, Sarah 27yrs b 1844 wife, born Twyford, Buckinghamshire
living in Twyford, Charndon, Buckinghamshire   

Joseph Plant  agricultural labourerer 
Sarah Plant 
William James Plant 7yrs/son 
Mary Anne Plant 5yrs/daughter 
Thomas Jesse Plant 4yrs/son 
Frederic Alfred Plant 2yrs/son 
Arthur George Plant 1yrs/son 

also i noticed on the census in the same street is...
Isaac plant 37yrs agricultural labour
Martha/wife 33yrs
Miriam?/daughter 13yrs
Diana/daughter 11yrs
John/son 9yrs agricultural labourer (at 9 yrs old?)
Samual/son 7yrs
Betsy/daughter 4yrs
Thomas/son 2yrs
Anne/daughter 2months

could be a brother of Joseph?



1901 England Census
Arthur G Plant b 1870 31yrs, Charndon, Buckinghamshire,(head)
his wife Elizabeth b 1873 28yrs, Bedale, Yorkshire,
they lived in Darlington, St John, Durham 
Arthur was a platelayer N.E.R ?
Williamth Plant 4yrs son (says William on original page)
Lilian Plant 3yrs  daughter
John T Lamb 19yrs  Boarder, platelayer
......................................

then in 1911 census they were living in
East Cowton, North allerton, County Yorkshire, North Riding
Lillian Plant 12yrs daughter
Annie Plant 7yrs daughter (my grt granny)     
Arthur Plant 5yrs son
William is missing in 1911, he would have been 14yrs, would he have been
to young to leave behind? or maybe he died.



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Arthur PLANT,1871 in Charndon, Bucks, England
parents
Joseph PLANT b: 1841 in Charndon, Bucks., England
Sarah HODGES b: 11 MAY 1845 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Married: 24 DEC 1863 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 10 children all born in in Charndon, Bucks, England...

Mary Ann 1866
Thomas   1867
Frederick 1869
Arthur b: 1871
Elizabeth 1873
Herbert   1873
Kezia      1876
John      1878
Florence  1879
Edith     1881

....................

Sarah HODGES parents
Thomas HODGES b: 10 DEC 1797 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mary RAY b: 1809 in Adstock, Bucks., England
Married: 31 AUG 1829 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 14 children, all born in Twyford, Bucks

Samuel   20 DEC 1829
Sarah   12 DEC 1830
James   22 JAN 1832
Robert  6 OCT 1833
William 12 APR 1835
Thomas  10 SEP 1837
Jesse   6 OCT 1839
Harriett 17 OCT 1841
Edward  19 NOV 1843
Sarah   11 MAY 1845 
Benjamin 27 DEC 1846
George  2 APR 1848
Mark    5 JAN 1851
Thomas  23 MAY 1853

......................

Thomas Hodges parents...
Father: John HODGES b: 25 DEC 1773 in Twyford, Bucks., England
Mother: SARAH
(In 1881, Thomas was a widowed pauper, lodging with the family of Joseph and Sarah Plant
(my grt, grt, grt grandparents) in Twyford)

they had six children, all born in Twyford, Bucks

Thomas 10 DEC 1797
James  18 MAY 1800
Samuel 15 AUG 1802
Elizabeth 31 MAR 1805
John   29 NOV 1807
Susannah 3 FEB 1811

.......................


John Hodges parents...
William HODGES b: ABT 1743 in Twyford, Bucks., England
ELIZABETH


they had 10 children, all born in tywford, bucks...

William 6 MAY 1770
Mary    12 JAN 1772
John    25 DEC 1773
Elizabeth   15 SEP 1776
Thomas      29 AUG 1779
Nancy       21 OCT 1781
Sarah       30 NOV 1783
Jane        20 AUG 1786
Abigail      6 SEP 1789
Rebecca     13 FEB 1791
..........................

William Hodges parents...
John HODGES b: in Twyford, Bucks, England
Ann SMITH
29 APR 1739 in Twyford, Bucks., England

they had 10 children in Twyford, Bucks, ...

Elizabeth 24 FEB 1739
Ann       14 MAR 1741
William   ABT 1743
Mary    25 MAR 1744
John    27 JUL 1746
Thomas  19 FEB 1748
Catherine 3 FEB 1750
Sarah     3 FEB 1750
Samuel    3 JAN 1753
Sarah   14 MAR 1756
........................... 
 
 
 

[mamakaz]

Joseph's parents (Arthurs Father(my grt grt grandad))

James Plant b 1816 in Charndon, Bucks,
Kesia Parker b 24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Married: 3 OCT 1800 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,

they had 4 children all born in Charndon, Buckinghamshire, England


John 1849
Jonas 1852
Jane 1854
Jemima 1857

Martha parker nee Roberts (Kesia's mother) was staying with them in the 1861 census

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Kesia Parkers parents...

Richard PARKER b 1777 in Piddington, Oxfordshire, England
Martha ROBERTS b 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks, England

they had 8 children...


Richard 4 OCT 1801 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Mary   19 MAY 1804 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
John   16 OCT 1808 in Piddington, Oxfordshire
Thomas  9 APR 1811 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Isaac  20 FEB 1814 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kerenhappuck  24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Kesia  24 NOV 1816 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
William 17 JAN 1819 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks 

...........................

Martha Roberts nee Parker (Kesia's mother) parents

Richard ROBERTS b: 1746 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,
Death MAY 1824 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks., England
Burial 15 MAY 1824 St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Ann DRAPER
Married: 31 DEC 1770 in St.Mary the Virgin, Marsh Gibbon, Bucks

children...
John ROBERTS 21 JUL 1771 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
Martha ROBERTS 18 NOV 1778 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks

...........................

Richard Roberts (Martha's father) parents...

Richard ROBERTS
Sarah PARKER b: 18 AUG 1718 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks,

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Sarah Parkers parents

John PARKER b: ABT 1680 in Marsh Gibbon, Bucks
MARY

they had 9 children, all born in Marsh Gibbon

Anne 7 MAY 1704
Anne 16 DEC 1705
Mary 28 JAN 1708
Elizabeth 31 JAN 1710
John PARKER MAY 1712
Martha PARKER 20 OCT 1714
Sarah PARKER 18 AUG 1718
Thomas PARKER 5 JUN 1721
Rebecca PARKER 20 AUG 1722

[Rick]

See also:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,378611.0.html

[teddybibbins]

Hi,
My daughter just rang me to notify me of your search, as I am searching for the Plant family of Charndon as well, I am so excited...
I will tell you my story so far,
We have always known that my Mother was adopted, but had no knowledge of her family, she was born in 1933. Recently her adoption papers have come to light, and I have been researching ever since.
She was born in Charndon to a Rosetta Spencer, who is the daughter of a Ernest and Kezia Spencer. Kezia was formerly a Plant. She was born 1884.

I will post back tomorow when I have all the details of what I know in front of me. Just wanted to respond now as this is a side of our family that I am just begining to find out about.

[mamakaz]

hi teddy, x

its so nice to hear from someone researching Plants, at last 

(hugs to dan, xxxx)

ive not been on for a while as my pc had a virus and i had to re format, so i lost all my research notes and BDM certs (that will teach me not to back up) about 4 months work up the swannee

ive had a quick look and found this....

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[teddybibbins]

Hello,
Wow, you have been busy, I think you have found pretty much the same as me.
I have received the marriage certificate of Ernest Fred Spencer and Kezia Ellen Plant dated Feb 11th 1904,
Fathers name Joseph Plant
Witnesses - Jesse Thomas Plant
                 -  Florence J  Plant
Florence has signed her name but I cant make out her middle name.

I also have the birth certificate of Rosetta Spencer, born 1913 to Ernest and Kezia Spencer in Werner Terrace, Charndon, and my mothers original birth certficate she is Margaret Rose Spencer born 25th April 1937 (sorry put wrong year in yesterdays post)
She was also born in Werner Terrace, Charndon. which I found out is still there.
But I cannot find anything further about my grandmother Rosetta.

So going back again
I think we have the same results
1891 census
Joseph Plant      Head
Sarah Plant        wife
Thomas Jesse     Son  (and witness at wedding)
Frederick A          Son
Herbert   E          son
Kezia      E          daughter
Albert      J          son
Florence  J          daughter (another witness)
Edith       R         daughter
Charles  H          son
Edward  J           son


And then on the 1881 census
appears the names of Arthur Plant 1871

I know I also put the wrong the year of birth for Kezia yesterday, sorry I was just so surprised to find your post, I had to respond immediately and did not have any info in front of me.

this is all so exciting

Love TeddyXXX

[teddybibbins]

Hi Mamakaz,
Just had a really good look at the marriage certificate, and I think the middle name of Florence is Jemima.
I do believe that My Great grandmother Kezia, and your Arthur were brother and sister.
lol TeddyXXX

[mamakaz]

Morning teddy, x  i think we are deffo related...

ive been researching  Rosetta this morning and found this...(i dont think its the right Rosetta)

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Now this couple appear in Oneworldtree on Ancestry.co.uk, but the date is wrong for Rosetta...(Oneworldtree could be a typo )

Name:  Rosetta Spencer 
Birth, 14 Jul 1915, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England
Death, 12 Jun 1964, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England
Spouse, Matthew Stanger
 
Name, Matthew Stanger 
Birth, 23 Nov 1899, Bainton, Northamptonshire, England
Death, 1974, Calvert, Buckinghamshire, England
Parents, Arthur Stanger, Rebbeca Burton 
Spouse, Rosetta Spencer

i have found lots more possibles for Rosetta, what is her exact birth date please?
and does she have a middle name?

i would love to find out more about her,

cheers, kaz, x

[teddybibbins]

Morning Kaz,
Your so dedicated I love you.
I think the Rosetta you have found could be my grandmother. Her actual date of birth is 14th July 1913, although your research shows the date to be 1915, I think we both have seen date discrepancies during our searches, so she could be the one. She has no middle name. I will have a look at the website you have mentioned..

This is just so facinating, a few months ago we had no knowledge of my mothers real family, then her brother (adoptive family) died and his belongings were sent to her and there in the middle of some paperwork were her adoption papers, and here we are..
Mother is still very much alive and well, and was stunned when I informed her that I might have found a relative.

Mum always said her mum was in service at a local manor house, and that she became pregnant whilst there.

I have just looked at my mothers original birth certificate, and it states that Rosetta was living at 13, Werner Terrace, CALVERT, Charndon.
and on Rosettas birth certificate she was born at 6 Werner Terrace, so thats where Ernest and Kezia lived.
Cant find any other children for Ernest and Kezia either...so far

love Teddy (Sue)