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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #18 on: Monday 08 June 09 10:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks Willow.  Now I will check on some of the baptisms and see if any of the children were born in Brosely as I know thats where Elizabeth was born.  Thanks for your help, regards Pat
SHEFFIELD:  hobson, bacon, pashley, sharman, brook(s) brooke(s), wilford, slingsby, lee, flint, fowlston(e), Foulston(e), wheatley, taylor, ward.
RAVENSTONEDALE/KENDAL:  udall
MALTON: udall, ruddock, hudson
WOLVERHAMPTON/STOKE ON TRENT: brook(s), brooke(s)
DONCASTER:  slingsby, bagshaw, steph(v)enson, scofield, foster, pashley, stanley.
DERBY: lee
BRADFORD: wilford
ROTHERHAM: straw, frost, shaw, higgins, fowlston(e), foulston(e), flint, pashley, hobson

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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #19 on: Monday 08 June 09 11:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Willow, I think I am going to have to go back to the drawing board on this one.  Initially I sent for the birth certificate for John Brooks who I know fron the census,s was born in Dudley C1850 obviously to get the parents names.  They came up as Father John Brooks, Mother Elizabeth Rowley.  Both John junior and john Senior were bricklayers.  I know from the census,s that Johns mother elizabeth was definitely born Brosely, shropshire.  So the family you found can,t be them. So having said that there must be another John Brooks born Dudley C1850.  I think I am going to have to send for another of the childrens birth certificates, if I can find their births to verify things. Thomas c1853, Joseph C1857, William C 1860, George C1862 and Elizabeth C1865. Thomas joseph and William were born Wolverhampton, George born Longton and Elizabeth Springvale.  Will let you know how I get on.  Hopefully will get there eventually.  I was a bit thrown with the marriage certificate for John and Elizabeth Rowley as it gave johns occupation as a bricklayer as he was.  But must admit I couln,t understand why they would go all the way to Birmingham to get married as in those days it was a long way.  If your family had given Elizabeths birth as Brosely that would have nailed it but it didn,t.  Hope this makes sense  Regards Pat
SHEFFIELD:  hobson, bacon, pashley, sharman, brook(s) brooke(s), wilford, slingsby, lee, flint, fowlston(e), Foulston(e), wheatley, taylor, ward.
RAVENSTONEDALE/KENDAL:  udall
MALTON: udall, ruddock, hudson
WOLVERHAMPTON/STOKE ON TRENT: brook(s), brooke(s)
DONCASTER:  slingsby, bagshaw, steph(v)enson, scofield, foster, pashley, stanley.
DERBY: lee
BRADFORD: wilford
ROTHERHAM: straw, frost, shaw, higgins, fowlston(e), foulston(e), flint, pashley, hobson

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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #20 on: Monday 08 June 09 17:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Pat

 Going back to the 1851 census at Stoke (Brookes living with Rich.Pye) the house sched.no.is 132,Wood St.
at sched no.145,Wood St. is this family..

Adam    Dawson   33         Stoke
Sarah                   30         Salop Broseley
Richard                  9
George                  7
Marie                     5
Charlotte               3
Adam                    18 mths
Margaret Rowley  51  moth-in-law    Salop Bentell?
Rich Forrest          27 lodger

Marriage at Cheadle Adam Dawson +Sarah Rowley June qtr 1842

Baptisms           (IGI) St Leonards Broseley
Rowley  parents George +Margaret
Fanny 1815
Sarah Elizb.1819
Thomas 1822
George  1823
Elizabeth 1825
Arodah    1827
John       1828

Death on FreeBMD Margaret Rowley June qtr 1868 Stoke age 68.

Don't want to add  more confusion, but found this marriage IGI ..
Margaret Rowley Pye +Edward Grainger  12 July1875 Fenton Staffs (interesting..)

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #21 on: Monday 08 June 09 18:35 BST (UK) »
Pat
      I think I've found the Pye + Rowley connection.Going back to 1851 cens(again) Elizabeth Brookes was Richard Pye's sister in law.
 He has step-daug.Elizb.Berkley(Barker) age 13
In 1861 Richard's wife Maria states she was born at Broseley Shrop.

Bear with me..
Marriage-Richard Pye +Maria Barker-9Nov.1845 Caverswall Staffs.

Marriage-Maria Rowley +William Barker-18 Dec. 1836 St Leonards Broseley.

Baptisms- Elizabeth Barker 7 May 1837 Madeley Shrop.
                 Emma    .........    10 March 1839 .....    .....

Possible bapt.Maria Rowley 11 March 1810 St Leonards Broseley parents George +Hannah

Could George(father have married twice?)

Marriage George Rowley + Margaret Boden 3 July 1813 St Leonards Broseley.

In 1841 at Broseley

Margaret Rowley 40
George               16
Elizab.                 4   (poss g.daug.)

Jackie.
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #22 on: Monday 08 June 09 20:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks for info Jacq definitely think you have got there but it is taking a bit of getting into my thick head,  No doubt I will get my head around it but will take some time. I am now going to try and digest it all.  I don,t know how you all do it, I know I couldn,t without the help of all of you, Many thanks Pat
SHEFFIELD:  hobson, bacon, pashley, sharman, brook(s) brooke(s), wilford, slingsby, lee, flint, fowlston(e), Foulston(e), wheatley, taylor, ward.
RAVENSTONEDALE/KENDAL:  udall
MALTON: udall, ruddock, hudson
WOLVERHAMPTON/STOKE ON TRENT: brook(s), brooke(s)
DONCASTER:  slingsby, bagshaw, steph(v)enson, scofield, foster, pashley, stanley.
DERBY: lee
BRADFORD: wilford
ROTHERHAM: straw, frost, shaw, higgins, fowlston(e), foulston(e), flint, pashley, hobson

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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #23 on: Monday 08 June 09 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Jacq, did you get my reply to PM don,t know if I did it right?  Best wishes Pat
SHEFFIELD:  hobson, bacon, pashley, sharman, brook(s) brooke(s), wilford, slingsby, lee, flint, fowlston(e), Foulston(e), wheatley, taylor, ward.
RAVENSTONEDALE/KENDAL:  udall
MALTON: udall, ruddock, hudson
WOLVERHAMPTON/STOKE ON TRENT: brook(s), brooke(s)
DONCASTER:  slingsby, bagshaw, steph(v)enson, scofield, foster, pashley, stanley.
DERBY: lee
BRADFORD: wilford
ROTHERHAM: straw, frost, shaw, higgins, fowlston(e), foulston(e), flint, pashley, hobson

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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 10:10 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth b 1825 makes more sense because if she was born 1829 she would only be 17/18 when she married - mind you that might explain why they were married in Birmingham

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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 21:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Willow and Jackie,  I would just like to say a great big thankyou to you both for all your help and the hard work you must have put in to find out everything you did.  I think I have now possibly got the right marriage certificate (Birmingham)  but isn,t it all messy.  I have printed off everything you have found out for me, but still can,t  seem to get it all together in my head.  But at least I definitely think we are on the right track.  Once again a very big thankyou, regards Pat      :-*
SHEFFIELD:  hobson, bacon, pashley, sharman, brook(s) brooke(s), wilford, slingsby, lee, flint, fowlston(e), Foulston(e), wheatley, taylor, ward.
RAVENSTONEDALE/KENDAL:  udall
MALTON: udall, ruddock, hudson
WOLVERHAMPTON/STOKE ON TRENT: brook(s), brooke(s)
DONCASTER:  slingsby, bagshaw, steph(v)enson, scofield, foster, pashley, stanley.
DERBY: lee
BRADFORD: wilford
ROTHERHAM: straw, frost, shaw, higgins, fowlston(e), foulston(e), flint, pashley, hobson

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Re: Brooks/Tye
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 24 March 16 19:05 GMT (UK) »
I'm a few years late with this, did you sort it out? I'm also researching this family and came up with the same as you got with Elizabeth Rowley and the Pye confusion before I found your post. Regards Richard.