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Offline Linda_J

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Compare signatures Please
« on: Thursday 14 May 09 22:53 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have a little bit of a problem and would like oppinions.

The clip shows three signatures from the parish records for marriages over a period of time.
I believe the first and second are the same person and these are from his first and second marriages.

I can't make up my mind about the bottom one which was 33 years on from the previous one.
The person in question was getting on in years so his signature might have been a bit shaky.

Thanks
Linda
Dove - Maidstone Kent
Ralph - Relf - Cranbrook Kent
Cottrell - Barcombe Sussex
Ecclestone - Norfolk and Suffolk
Gooch - Norfolk
Burgess - Sussex and Hampshire
Stanton - Breconshire
Other names; French, Beale, Higgins, Measday (all Kent)

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Re: Compare signatures Please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 May 09 08:26 BST (UK) »
I think you can be pretty certain about the first two but the third is very different in its style. It is much more spiky and has almost no looping of letters where the other two have.

My immediate instinct would be to say that they are by different people but I also know from much more recent experience ( my mother's last year, or so) how much handwriting can be affected by poor eyesight and old age.

Sorry, that's not very helpful. Anyone else have any opinions?

Jen
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
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STS: White
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DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Compare signatures Please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 15 May 09 08:32 BST (UK) »
I'm certainly not an expert in handwriting, but my instinctive reaction is that the last signature is not the same as the others.

The first two look (at first glance) to be something like John Relf but the third looks more like John Bell.

My father had a lovely hand all through his life, until his last illness when his signature, always so clear and nicely written, was almost totally illegible.  This could explain the differences (as already mentioned) but I can't be any more specific I'm afraid.

Sorry -

Philippa
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Re: Compare signatures Please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 May 09 08:53 BST (UK) »
Don't think the first and third are by the same person even allowing for ageing etc.   The J of John in both is differently formed.

cahrlotte


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Re: Compare signatures Please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 May 09 00:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen, Philippa and charlotte

Thank you for your comments.

Yes I agree the last one must be a different person.

Thanks again

Linda

Dove - Maidstone Kent
Ralph - Relf - Cranbrook Kent
Cottrell - Barcombe Sussex
Ecclestone - Norfolk and Suffolk
Gooch - Norfolk
Burgess - Sussex and Hampshire
Stanton - Breconshire
Other names; French, Beale, Higgins, Measday (all Kent)

Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk