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« Reply #27 on: Saturday 03 December 22 06:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello Vixenday

Yes we are definitely related 😀 it’s very confusing with all the Frederick Georges but in summary Frederick who was married to Annie Wood had siblings- Mary Ann Maud, known as Maud, George who was disabled after an accident, and Ellen (b 1907) who was my grandmother.  Some people online have got her mixed up with the Ellen you mentioned but that is not the case. The parents of FG, Maud, George and Ellen were Frederick George and Jane Elizabeth Bryant.  I have never yet been able to pin down his death - I originally thought he died prior to the 1911 census because she is shown as a widow but then I found some army service records that seem to indicate he signed up during the war.

Everything else you have tied up with my research. 

My grandmother (Ellen), seemed to keep in touch with sister Maud and brother George and families but didn’t seem to be much in touch with Fred and Annie so much of what I know is by research and family stories 🙀

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« Reply #28 on: Saturday 03 December 22 07:15 GMT (UK) »
Re: WWl records.

Frederick Verrier born 1876 born St Pancras (service number SS/7247) Army Service Corps- who gives the address 50 Warren Street, it states he has tattoos of a girl and a union jack on his arm.
His wife is Elizabeth Bryant spinster
Children are Maude, George Frederick and Ellen

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Frederick Verrier born 1870 (service number 697546) Labour Corps, give address 3 Risinhill Street, Pentonville.
His wife is Jane Elizabeth Bryant they married 6 October 1895
Children are George Charles born 1905
Ellen born 1908
NOTE the only George Charles born 1905 has mother's maiden name BOON
I cannot find the registration for Ellen
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Frederick George Verrier (service number 413397) Royal Army Service Corps, 5th Battalion, a newspaper distributor as a civilian. Born 1896
Address 16 Warren Street, Islington
Wife Annie Maud Wood married 23 May 1915
child William born 1 October 1917 Holborn

children
Frederick George 1916-1918 mmn Wood
William Edward 1917
Ellen M 1920
Frederick George 1921
May C 1924


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« Reply #29 on: Saturday 03 December 22 07:20 GMT (UK) »
GRO Index with mother's maiden name Bryant

Mary Ann Maud reg. 1900 St Pancras Late registration  (baptized 28 December 1899 born 27 November 1899)
Henry 1906
Jane Elizabeth 1910 died 1911 age 0


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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 03 December 22 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you among.  You will see that this original post by me is some years old and I do have loads of info including all the service records etc.  The post was resurrected by Vixenday as they realised the link to their own family. 

Really the only big missing information is the death I mentioned

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« Reply #31 on: Saturday 03 December 22 12:51 GMT (UK) »
Thank you EC! My mother is the only child of Frederick George 1921-2014 and she was born in 1947 to him and my grandmother Edna nee Fryer 1926-1981. She married my Dad David Russell (b1944) and had two girls- me Victoria and my sister Emma. We both had girls- mine are Lauren b1998 and Roseanna b2000 hers are Anna b2005 and Megan b2009 . So my mum is your second cousin and I’m your second cousin once removed.
I got my information about the Verrier born in 1835 who supposedly died in 1910 from a ancestry site ( I’ve attached pics) which has fitted with my mums research - but I’m puzzled about the date of death for 1910 it gives.
You’ve seen the information I have going back from Ellen and FG’s dad along the Verrier line .
My mums done a bit of research as we know our mutual ancestor Cornelius came from Somerset and moved to London. Before him they were all from that part of the world. Beyond his father we have no more information. But there are still many Verriers in that area!
We also know, from history records that some male Verriers ( not sure of the actual connection to us) we’re involved in the Monmouth rebellion against the Catholic James II - my grandad said that our family were Huguenots so that makes sense! Definitely one was sent as a slave to the Americas and actually bought by a man along with others. I googled the name Verrier and Monmouth Rebellion and got the name of the ship and his master. Let’s hope he was freed at some point ( possible not long as the Protestant King William was on the throne quick soon!) and spread out the Verrier name into America!
Thank you for all your information- fascinating stuff!

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« Reply #32 on: Saturday 03 December 22 12:53 GMT (UK) »
I think I might have missed this pic!

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« Reply #33 on: Saturday 03 December 22 15:00 GMT (UK) »
Hello again
 got my information about the Verrier born in 1835 who supposedly died in 1910 from a ancestry site ( I’ve attached pics) which has fitted with my mums research - but I’m puzzled about the date of death for 1910 it gives.

George John Verrier (sometimes Frederick I seem to remember) b. 1835 died in Jan 1910 in St Pancras workhouse

Its a while since I looked at the Verriers in detail so I would have to check properly

I think you will find that most of the information in ancestry trees originated from my trees which I started many years ago.

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« Reply #34 on: Saturday 03 December 22 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Thank you!

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« Reply #35 on: Sunday 04 December 22 04:12 GMT (UK) »
Someone seems to have moved this to the Yorkshire board. No idea why/ it’s by nothing to do with Yorkshire. The people are in London. Not sure how to move it back - can someone do this please

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