Sutterby grave - Blackley area.... help please

[Lockzie]

Hiya John and Lindsay     

Thanks so much for your message 

Yes the grave is definitely Anne Humphreys born West Hatch, Somerset in 1816 and died at 54 Herbert Street in 1886.
She was the partner of Charles Sutterby born in Foulden, Norfolk in 1818 and died in Kentish Town, Middlesex in 1865. I have a copy of his will. Anne called herself "Sutterby" but they didn't marry....she is named in Charles will as Anne Humphreys.

The "very grand" Humphreys family gravestone reads:
Mary Jane, youngest daughter of the above named John & Eliza Moore died 3rd September 1936. Eliza Charlotte second daughter of the above named John & Eliza Moore died 29th October 1943 in her 91st year. Ann widow of Charles Sutterby and younger sister of Eliza Moore died 6th November 1886.
Grave 24/10. In the faith of Christ and in hope of the resurrection, John Moore of Lytham, eldest son of Joshua Moore of Leek, Westmoreland, died 10th October 1865. Eliza his widow, daughter of Thomas Humphreys of Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset, died 15th January 1893, Mary Charlotte, widow of Henry Charles Moorhouse and elder sister of Eliza Moore died 28th May 1894. Also to the memory of Ann Elizabeth aged 57 years eldest daughter of John & Eliza Moore and wife of Charles Alexander Bannerman of Southport who was interred October 5th 1909 in Southport Cemetery

I am going to send you a private message you my email address so we can swap more personal family information

We are related by the way............I am Edith's grand daughter

Best wishes
Amanda

[lythamer]

Hi Amanda
Well this is certainly a turn up all down to the power of the internet. Thanks for your e mail we will get in touch  but for now today i went to St Cuthberts and spoke to David the guy who tends the grounds, i told him the tale and he showed me the burial records and there lo and behold in row 24 grave 19 Ann Sutterby but there was no stone so do i need to look at grave 10 instead? the book also gives the date as Nov 9th 1886 age 70 but i will double check on that. My mother talks in glowing terms about Edith and she was actually bridesmaid at Ediths wedding i dont know when that was but you may well know, was Ediths husband called Frank?
Best Regards John / Lindsay

[Lockzie]

Hiya

Yes try 24/10. I have photos of the grave, I think the lady who took them for me said it was one of the biggest, it is a tall white cross.

I have just found one of the emails from the lady that sent me photos....it may help you locate the grave:

Hello Amanda
 
Well I've just got back from the library with, I hope, good news!
 
Ann is buried in Grave 24/19, and this is Grave Register detail:-
Ann Sutterby, 6/11/1886, Aged 70
Mary Jane Moore, 8/9/1936. aged 81
Eliza Charlotte Moore, 2/11/1943, aged 90.
 
This led me to the Memorial Inscription which is slightly curious...
 
Mary Jane, youngest daughter of the above named John & Eliza Moore died 3rd September 1936.  Eliza Charlotte second daughter of the above named John & Eliza Moore died 29th October 1943 in her 91st year.  Ann widow of Charles Sutterby and younger sister of Eliza Moore died 6th November 1886.
 
[since no one was 'above', I then looked for John & Eliza Moore in the Index, and found them apparently in an adjacent plot. So have transcribed that grave too.]
 
Grave 24/10.
In the faith of Christ and in hope of the resurrection, John Moore of Lytham, eldest son of Joshua Moore of Leek, Westmoreland, died 10th October 1865.  Eliza his widow, daughter of Thomas Humphreys of Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset, died 15th January 1893, Mary Charlotte, widow of Henry Charles Moorhouse and elder sister of Eliza Moore died 28th May 1894.  Also to the memory of Ann Elizabeth aged 57 years eldest daughter of John & Eliza Moore and wife of Charles Alexander Bannerman of Southport who was interred October 5th 1909 in Southport Cemetery.

The Moore’s owned the County (& Commercial)Hotel, until 1912

I have a photo of your mum as a bridesmaid at my Edith and Franks wedding. They married at St Pauls Parish Church, Monton on 27th February 1935

Best wishes
Amanda

[Lockzie]

Me again......
I have just been looking at the photos. If you stand at the entrance doors to the church and look left, you wont be able to miss the big white cross 

[lythamer]

So 24/19 is the correct spot,  dave at the church has said he will identify the exact location of the grave, i am seeing him on saturday hopefully he will know by then. You have a photo of the wedding thats fantastic i will be seeing her on wednesday she will be thrilled. Are you in the moston / blackley area, Molly Sutterby used to live in a lovely cottage at 361 Moston Lane i used to stay with her there during the summer hols it is now a Peace garden next to the Simpson Memorial if you are around there its worth a look
Regards J / L

[lythamer]

Just a quickie according to my mother Charles Sutterby snr was a border at Kirkham Grammer School maybe there is something in their records.
J / L

[lythamer]

Hi Heather
I notice you are on site this morning and just wanted to thank you for your invaluable help with the research into the Sutterby's, this came as a complete suprise to us that Anne has been at St Cuthberts all this time almost under our very noses. It is clear that both Amanda and yourself have put a lot of time and effort into this and if we can contribute then that would be fantastic.
Best regards John / Lindsay

[heatherjulie]

Hi

Glad to be of help
Thank you for giving us an update.
Heather