1861 + 1871 census lookup please

[HeatherL]

Could someone please look up Thomas Snaddon for me in the 1861 and 1871 census. He should be about 58 in the 61 census. Wife is Ann, children are: janet, agnes, charles, james, helen and may (janet, agnes, charles, james and helen may have moved out). Address probably coalsnaughton village. Am wondering who else may be living in their household (am trying to track down Thomas' parents James and Isabella, am hoping they may have moved in at some point).

Cheers

[MonicaL]

Hi Heather

The transcript looks to have messed up on ages, you would have to look at the original:

1861

Thomas, 68, coal miner
Ann, 14, wife,
Robert, 17, son

Address: New Row, Tillicoultry

Still looking for 1871...

Monica

Added: Again, not confident of the transcript for 1871:

Thomas, 68, coal miner
Jane, 66
Robert, 26, coal miner

Address: 2 New Row, Tillicoultry

[rye470]

Hi Heather,

Had a look at SP for your Thomas Snaddan and Monica has the only couple that fit.

Thomas is shown as 68 on both census, but the age is not clear on the 1861. Robert's ages tally with Ancestry.

Apart from Thomas and Ann, only Robert is still at home as Monica said.

What makes you think that Thomas' parents are still around at this time?  If Thomas is even 58 in 1861, then his parents will be in their mid to late 70's. 

Do you have them on the 1851?


Christine.

[rye470]

Heather,

Have had a look for James and Isabella on the 1861, but i'm afraid no luck.  The oldest James and Isabella listed would have been ages with Thomas.  Too young to be parents. 



Christine.

[HeatherL]

Damn, they made a mess of the records on the 68!!! If Jane's living with him in the 71 maybe he got re-married... mental note - must look into that.
Thanks Monica!!

Added: Must be something seriously funny with those records. I just looked up Ann's death cert. She didn't die until about 10 years after Thomas...


Christine, I have no idea how long his parents stuck around for. In all honesty, I'm clutching at straws where his parents are concerned (I have a post up on the clackmannan board, "more SNADDON's"). Basically, I can't find any info on them at all. I have names from Thomas' death cert, but beyond that, nothing. I was hoping that if they were living with Thomas, then at least I'd have a rough time-frame for their deaths.

[MonicaL]

Hi Heather

I would have a big question mark on 'Jane' in 1871 until you look at the original....likely to to be Anne!

Re Thomas' parents, is this them in 1841?:

James Snedden 70, coal miner
Isabella Dow 65

Address: Coalsnaughton Village, Tillicoultry

Would fit potentially for Thomas' father, specially given the location.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Potential entry for mother in 1851, likely husband has died:

Ann Snadden 45, head, b. Laserend, Midlothian
Ann Snadden 19, b. tillicoultry
Betsey Snadden 17, b. Clashmore
Bell Snadden 80, mother in law, Maret Of Parish Relaf (likely to be in receipt of Parish Relief!!) b. Clashmore, Clackmnsh

Address:Ville Of Coalsnaughton New Row, Tillicoultry

Monica 
   

[MonicaL]

From general google searches, there is one thread on Ancestry which is only a couple of years old for Snaddons in Tillicoultry that might be worthwhile you checking with the posters to see if there is any connection. One lady is particular also has Cook in her line, although not clear where in the line!

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.scotland.clk.general/210.1.2.1/mb.ashx

Monica

[HeatherL]

Damn you've been busy Monica!!! Thanks

  Will have to contact a couple of the people on the message board, possible that the William mentioned in post could be James' brother or something (that name has popped up a couple of times).

I found the '41 reference to James and Isabella last week, but DOW is not a name that has popped up at all so far, and if they were married she would be in the census as SNADDON.
  Also, I have a death cert for Thomas that puts his death in 1878 and a birth cert for Ann (born Agnus) with the location as Tillicoultry. IF i have the correct James and Isabella, then Thomas would have a couple of older brothers. Possibly one of them also married someone known as Ann. I'll run a search for death certs between 41 and 51.