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Could this grave be in NZ-COMPLETED WITH THANKS
« on: Tuesday 02 June 09 07:36 BST (UK) »
Hello all

We are trying to trace the whereabouts of this grave.  It is that of William Thomas Smith d. 4 April, 1876, aged 75.  Erected by one of his daughters whose nickname was Tassie.

Of his five daughters, the eldest two went from Tasmania to Victoria, and it is the second of these who erected the monument, the next two went to New Zealand, and married and died there.  The youngest daughter married and stayed in Tasmania.

We have not been able to find his death or the location of the grave, and wondered whether he might have joined his daughters in NZ.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Annette
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Russell, Aust. Enland
McMinn, Ireland
Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
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Re: Could this grave be in NZ
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 08:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Annette,

Where was William born? and lived? Did he immigrate also?

There is no death for a William Smith of the right age in NZ 1876.( Nearest is age 61)

Trish
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Re: Could this grave be in NZ
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 08:48 BST (UK) »
Hi

What we know is on that tombstone.  Posted to NZ in the offchance he may have gone to visit? live? with one of his daughters.

Desperately trying to find where he died, so we can get more information, hopefully, from a DC

Annette
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Cooke, Aust. England
Russell, Aust. Enland
McMinn, Ireland
Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England

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Re: Could this grave be in NZ
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 09:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Annette 

What a fabulous monument.

To my eyes, the background building (particularly the roofline and verandah) and what might be a variety of gum tree (at right),  shriek "Australia" !   

Do you have an idea of when the daughter Tassie, went to live in VIC ?

Lu
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Re: Could this grave be in NZ
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 10:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Annette,

I think Lu is right now I have looked at photo again.

There is 1 death 1876 for a William Thomas SMITH on this site;
It costs 99c to view and abt 17 dollars to download cert.

http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA2574F700805DE7/HomePage?ReadForm&1=Home~&2=~&3=~

Go to historical research on left side of page and follow links to search page :)

Cheers,
Trish
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Re: Could this grave be in NZ
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 June 09 00:27 BST (UK) »
A William Thomas Smith aged 75 died in NZ Onehunga catholic Cem
Source: NZSG Cemetery fiche
Location   Onehunga Catholic Cemetery B03.09
St Joseph
 125 Church St
Onehunga
Auckland City

There is a M/I

But given the one in aus, could be red herring, but keep it in mind just in case

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Re: Could this grave be in NZ
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 June 09 00:38 BST (UK) »
sometimes graves and monuments will have the monumental masons name in either the very bottom left or right hand corner, this could possibly narrow down where the grave is if it could be established who the mason was.


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Re: Could this grave be in NZ
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 June 09 00:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Th William Thomas Smith who died in Victoria in 1876 was an infant 3 months old.
Source is the Pioneer Index.

There are no deaths of a William Thomas Smith anywhere near the correct age in the Victorian Pioneer Index. So save your $'s as I think it is a red herring and the death in NZ looks more promising.

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Re: Could this grave be in NZ
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 June 09 04:02 BST (UK) »

A William Thomas Smith aged 75 died in NZ Onehunga catholic Cem
Source: NZSG Cemetery fiche
Location   Onehunga Catholic Cemetery B03.09
St Joseph
 125 Church St
Onehunga
Auckland City

There is a M/I

But given the one in aus, could be red herring, but keep it in mind just in case
   

Mmm ... what year did this one die ??

Can't find him on the index for 1875 - 1876  ??