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Migration to SA detail James Hamilton NAISMITH
« on: Thursday 11 June 09 00:02 BST (UK) »
Hi

Am trying to locate proof of migration of James Hamilton Naismith to SA. He married Matilda Ann coldwell there in Port Adelaide in November 1882.

I have him as crew on the ship 'Wotonga' from Brisbane to Sydney in 1881, but that's all until his marriage.

He was born in Bishopwearmouth, England in November 1854.

Any assistance greatly appreciated!

Jacqui


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Re: Migration to SA detail James Hamilton NAISMITH
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 June 09 05:24 BST (UK) »
I typed in the wotonga ship online, but cant find him on the list is that the full list online?
I can see him in SA having children, how did he get to Australia? Maybe he went to SA by land.

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Re: Migration to SA detail James Hamilton NAISMITH
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 June 09 06:03 BST (UK) »
Wendy

found through Brisbane archives:
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 

Age: 27 

Port of Departure: Brisbane 

Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales 

Voyage Arrival Date: 18 Sep 1881

Vessel Name: Wotonga 

Origin Location: British 

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Re: Migration to SA detail James Hamilton NAISMITH
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 June 09 06:08 BST (UK) »
I know about the children in SA with Matilda (my great grandfather is the youngest of the 8). Stories have it that he came to SA in 1876, but I cannot find him in Australia (except for the Wotonga trip), nor can I seem locate him in England after the 1861 census. I can still locate his parents and some siblings in England after that date.
Am thinking of looking into convict records now, even though we have always been told there were no convicts in the family line - cover ups do occur!



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Re: Migration to SA detail James Hamilton NAISMITH
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 June 09 06:29 BST (UK) »
Did he come with any other family? Ive typed him name into SA Archives online and nothing? Would his name be spelt any other way?

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Re: Migration to SA detail James Hamilton NAISMITH
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 June 09 08:41 BST (UK) »
Did he come with any other family? Ive typed him name into SA Archives online and nothing? Would his name be spelt any other way?

wendy

The thought the passenger records at the SA Archives were the Official Assisted Passage Passenger Lists 1845 – 1886.  Perhaps there are others. :-\

I would hazard a guess that the records listed by Kris are for coastal shipping.  Unfortunately not all coastal ships listed their passengers by name but I note James is listed as a 3rd engineer on one of the records..  Many ships were involved the coastal freight trade and would carry a small number of passengers as well. 

Note any online shipping records for him and then you could check to see if that particular ship arrived in Adelaide, however this database of ships is only for those with surviving passenger lists and may not list crew.
http://www.saghs.org.au/shipping.htm

He may have jumped ship....many did.
If you wished to follow that line there is a South Australian Deserters Register 1852-1890. 

Cheers
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Re: Migration to SA detail James Hamilton NAISMITH
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 June 09 12:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Jacqui,

Just to let you know he is not listed in the SA Deserters Register

Cheers Kris  :)
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Re: Migration to SA detail James Hamilton NAISMITH
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 June 09 00:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks all

Although there is a wealth of information that has been pointed out to me, for which I am extremely grateful, I still find myself with the same issue. :'(

My great greatgrandfather seems to have dropped off the radar for a few years.  I have him as a 5 yr old in the 1861 census in England, then the rest of his family in the 1881 census - nothing in 1871. Then he supposedly appeared in Australia in 1876 (no real evidence), where he crewed on ships between Brisbane and Sydney in 1881 before marrying in SA in 1882.

This has been bugging me for 12 months now....... ??? ANY clues would be greatly appreciated!

Jacqui