occupations

[truebritmega]

Firstly, what are the words above ash wheeler "ironworks" ?

And then the next one down (My main reason for the post) I havent got a clue what that says!... just that it starts with tud and ends with der LOL

[truebritmega]

oops it would be good if i put the thing up so you can see huh? lolol damn, I cant see how to upload the image i have:(

[truebritmega]

there got it  lol sorry bout that

[nickgc]

No idea about the first one, but the second (and third) are both "Steel works".

Oops!  I see, you want the first word of the second entry.  I think the first part is "Milling..." which would likely be someone who works parts on a metal lathe.

Nick

[regross]

Hi,

I agree with nickgc the second word does appear to star "milling" the is it "ider" could it be "millwright",although it really does't look like that?

a useful site
http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks3a.html#Occupations

A quick question is this docment a census or a register of employees?

There are references to  "Judd"  owning steel works. The first word over "iron works" could be "Judd"

regards

Robyn

[charlotteCH]

Agree with Robyn... "udd" definite and probably JUDD... but what's the circle[?] about the J?
 Does it belong to the line above that which you've scanned or is it part of the line in question?'

charlotte

[Koromo]

It looks like Ash Wheeler (Ironworks) with Pudd written above. The word Pudd[ler] has been added later a clerk who went through the census and categorised all the different occupations. Puddling was a process in iron-making.

Millwinder (Steel worker)

This illustration http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iron-Making.jpg shows iron being 'milled,' and a puddling furnace along with other types of furnace commonly found in 19th century ironworks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puddling_furnace is all about puddling!


Koromo

[stonechat]

The other one is millminder

[truebritmega]

Thank you all for your guesswork! yes it is a census, 1901, and its in Bilston Staffordshire, the majority of my fam were in the "metals" industry, as well as stone and coal mining...

The first I know it is ash wheeler, as its my great grandad and his occupation is listed on his daughters mrriage cert  as Ash Wheeler, Ironworks... it was the bit above ironworks I couldnt fathom out Pudd, could fit... as there are, were, a few puddlers in the fam too

hmm Millminder? I can see that in it! but, this is probably a silly question... a Mill... minder? at a steel works? a steel... "mill" ? what would that mean? like a supervisor of a furnace or something?

And ty Koromo for the links as to what the trades actually do, I'll have a look there in a sec as to me they are just words, names lol

Thank you all so much !