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Palin Liverpool
« on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:19 BST (UK) »
Can anyone please help with my Palin search!!
I thought I had found a whole family but I don't think it's mine  >:(

George  Palin
William (bill)Herbert Palin 1898
Rosa or Rose Palin
Anthony Palin

William Herbert was my Great Grandfather, all of these people are definately my family but I can't find actual records for all of them with the parents.

I found a William Herbert W. Derby 1898 but I believe that he belongs to another family. Their William Herbert died in 1994 and mine died in the 1950's I think. My Grandma hated her father and the details are sketchy on him.
He married Eunice Evans in 1922.

I would love to find his parents names so I can go further back. I am off to the library to get some vouchers for some sites but wondered if anyone could help at all? Please......   ;D

Many thanks
Fran
Palin- Liverpool & Hawarden
Evans - Hawarden Ellesmere Port
Law- Wolverhampton, Saltney & Chester
Meredith - Newport Pagnell, Rugby & Daventry
Tomalin- Rugby & Daventry
Hadley-Swynnerton & Milwich
Knight - Millwich & Biddulph
Fry
Barclay
Gurney
Hall - Milwich & Fradswell & Grindon Stafforshire
Handley-Milwich
Sherratt-Leigh
Hurdman-
Shemilt - Milwich

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Re: Palin Liverpool
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Fran and welcome to Rootschat

This is your great grandfathers birth registration

Births September qtr 1898 
 
William Herbert Palin    West Derby  8b 631

A copy of his birth cert will give his parents names
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Re: Palin Liverpool
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:30 BST (UK) »
Could this be his sister

Births September qtr 1905 
 
Rosa Annie Palin West Derby  8b 705

2 possibles for George

Births March qtr 1900 
 
George Craven  Palin   West Derby  8b 686   

 
Births Sep 1904   
 
George PALIN     West Derby  8b 272

Nothing for an Anthony Palin

Have you checked the 1911 census to see if the family are all together
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Re: Palin Liverpool
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:42 BST (UK) »
I have found him on the 1901 census

www.1901censusonline.com free index shows William H Palin b Wavertree aged 2

He has been indexed as William A Calin on Ancestry but image is Palin

William A Palin 26 electric tramcar conductor b Southport
Sarah E 23 b Buckley Flint
William H 2 b Wavertree
George C 1 b Wavertree
RG13 Piece 3505 Folio 34 Page 6

Births March qtr 1900 

George Craven  Palin   West Derby  8b 686   
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Re: Palin Liverpool
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:47 BST (UK) »
Here is his parents marriage  http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Marriages June qtr 1897 
Sarah Ellen Dodd Chester  8a 755   
William Anthony Palin  Chester  8a 755

www.cheshirebmd.org.uk
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1896 to 1899
 
William A Palin toSarah E Dodd - Chester, Civil Marriage Registers at Cheshire West Ref ROC/37/6


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Re: Palin Liverpool
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole and thanks for the speedy reply!
I had found the transcript for this but I still dont know if this is him as the other families William Herbert was born in the same place  ::)

I don't know the names of my G G G Granparents except that the mothers maiden name was Dodd. (But then so was the other families which made me think I had a eureka moment! )
My head hurts  :D

I haven't looked at the census but I forgot to add Maud Palin too.

I did find a couple of them together with the parents listed as James Palin and mother ' Hannah' No surname. This was on the familysearch.org site?
 But I can't for the life of me find a palin- dodd marriage in the whole of lancashire. Or a birth for a Hannah Dodd. I can find a James Palin marriage to a Hannah Sutcliffe but then my grandma would be wrong and she's a wise old Bird!
I feel like I am going round in  circles  :D
Thanks for your help again!

Fran
Palin- Liverpool & Hawarden
Evans - Hawarden Ellesmere Port
Law- Wolverhampton, Saltney & Chester
Meredith - Newport Pagnell, Rugby & Daventry
Tomalin- Rugby & Daventry
Hadley-Swynnerton & Milwich
Knight - Millwich & Biddulph
Fry
Barclay
Gurney
Hall - Milwich & Fradswell & Grindon Stafforshire
Handley-Milwich
Sherratt-Leigh
Hurdman-
Shemilt - Milwich

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Re: Palin Liverpool
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:52 BST (UK) »
Hi

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I don't know the names of my G G G Granparents except that the mothers maiden name was Dodd. (But then so was the other families which made me think I had a eureka moment! )
My head hurts 

I haven't looked at the census but I forgot to add Maud Palin too.

I did find a couple of them together with the parents listed as James Palin and mother ' Hannah' No surname. This was on the familysearch.org site?
But I can't for the life of me find a palin- dodd marriage in the whole of lancashire.

Have you read all my replies above - particularly the Palin/Dodd marriage details
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Re: Palin Liverpool
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:53 BST (UK) »
Oh my that was quick! Why didn't I find it on there!!! I've been looking all week........ ???

Have a couple more names to go on now, it still has no mention of Aunt Maud though.

These names are the same as the other ladies but her William Herbert isnt mine. Now I am really confused!  :o

Fran.

She sent me this
William Anthony Palin & Sarah Ellen  had three children:  
1):  William Herbert, b. 3 June1898 at Wavertree Parish,W.Derby, Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
-Christened 7 Aug.1898, St. Bridget, Wavertree, Lancashire, England. Died 14 Dec. 1994 at  Seaforth, Ont. Canada.
- Data has not been researched regarding William Herbert's marital status.
- During World War 1, William Herbert served in the British Army as a Private. (iii)
-William emigrated to Canada when he was 28 years of age when he arrived on March 14th, in 1926 at the Port of St. John, New Brunswick. (ii)
- He lived to be 96 years of age, deceasing on December 14, 1994, at Seaforth, Ontario, Canada. (**)
 
So this is not my William Herbert!  :-\ as he died in England....
Palin- Liverpool & Hawarden
Evans - Hawarden Ellesmere Port
Law- Wolverhampton, Saltney & Chester
Meredith - Newport Pagnell, Rugby & Daventry
Tomalin- Rugby & Daventry
Hadley-Swynnerton & Milwich
Knight - Millwich & Biddulph
Fry
Barclay
Gurney
Hall - Milwich & Fradswell & Grindon Stafforshire
Handley-Milwich
Sherratt-Leigh
Hurdman-
Shemilt - Milwich

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Re: Palin Liverpool
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 June 09 23:01 BST (UK) »
Ok - lets start with what we know is fact about him - his marriage to Eunice

Marriages June qtr 1922 
 
Eunice Evans   Hawarden  11b 417   
William H Palin Hawarden  11b 417

You will need to buy a copy of his marriage cert to find his age and his fathers name and occupation.  It should then be possible to find him on the 1901/1911 census with the right family

There is no other William Herbert Palin birth on freebmd in any other county apart from that 1898 one
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