Pre-1837 brick wall.....help please?

[Billy Anderson]

Hi sgauntlett,
no problem,
I am on Melbourne time and it is almost the witching hour!
 so will check out the thread tomorrow,
good luck.
cheers,Billy.

[sgauntlett]

If you type in the parents name you should get a list of 12 entries(8 children)

Billy or anyone else reading...
How do you search with just parents names on family search? When I try it asks me for first names as well as last an I don't know what the names of the children are.

I have also found a John Gauntlett born 1795 and christened 1808 in the same parish. Any way to prove this or do i have to guess the dates are about right? This would take me to a William and Mary... great progress for one day...if it's right.

Simon

[janan]

Hi Simon

Welcome to Rootschat

Don't put anything in the left-hand boxes, just enter the father's full-name and mother's first-name.

With a fairly unusual name and a family who were kind enough to stay put you are probably on the right track. The original parish records may give occupations which can help and if you can find a will this can also be helpful in confirming things. Anything really to check and double-check.

Jan

[janan]

I would be a bit careful given there is another John Gauntlett in Portsea born c1813. However given your John has a child Lucy that does add extra weight to you having found the right one.

Jan

[Little Nell]

There are lots of Gauntletts in Hampshire.

The original parish register baptism entry would give John's father's occupation in 1816.  You could order the film from the LDS to view at one of their Family History Centres.

Or, since you are in London, you could go along to the Society of Genealogists library and for a day search fee, look at the microfiche of the registers there.  But I warn you there are a lot of them  

In the mean time, it does look likely that John who married Jane was baptised in 1816.

I can confirm the baptism of the other John Gauntlett in 1808, born in 1795, from a transcript.  At that date there are no occupations included in the register.

William and Mary had the following children baptised in Gosport:
James 2 Aug 1799
William 29 Dec 1805
Ann 9 Dec 1807                                                
Ann 2 Jun 1809                                            
James  14 Feb 1812
These were baptised in Portsea:
John bn 23 Jan 1795 bapt 7 Oct 1808
Nancy  19 Sep 1802                                            
William bn 26 Dec 1796  bapt 7 Oct 1808                                      

And William 17 Feb 1793,  at St Thomas Portsmouth

But this could be two different Williams  

William Gauntlett married Mary Joliffe 29 August 1791 Portsea
William Gauntlett married Mary Stoye 2 March 1805 Portsea.
There is no indication that the second was a widower.  And there is no burial of a Mary Gauntlett that would fit the widower scenario.  So two couples.

A William Gauntlett, victualler of Portsea, left a will, proved in 1796, copy available at Winchester.  This looking promising.  He was buried in Portsea 8 Apr 1794.

John and Lucy Gauntlett had the following children:
Lucy 16 Nov 1813
John 28 Jun 1816
Ann  11 Dec 1818                                          
Elizabeth 13 May 1821  buried 8 Jun 1823                                    
William 21 Jan 1825
Eliza  19 Jan 1827                                        
Mary Ann 12 Apr 1829
Thomas Henry 9 Dec 1831  
Henry 12 Jul 1833
George 7 Aug 1835                                        

Nell

[sgauntlett]

Wow Nell, that's amazing, thank you so much! 

It'll take me a while to take all that in but the occupation and location look like they fit so I guess probability is on my side!

I'm so pleased I decided to post on here! Thanks,

Simon

[Nick29]

you always have to take what you get on the IGI with a pinch of salt, though I think it is a good chance he is your man.
If you type in the parents name you should get a list of 12 entries(8 children)
Kind regards,Billy.
ps he married Jane Callard at saint Mary,s Portsea so I recon this is him.
pps, It was normal for the child to be christened within 4 weeks of birth so you can work out the d.o.b around 4 weeks before christening.
 

Just a couple of comments......

1. IGI extracted records are usually extremely accurate, because they are transcribed from parish records.  IGI submitted records can be extremely variable in their accuracy, anything from total accuracy to sheer flights of fancy.

2. Although it was normal for christenings to take place between 2 and 4 weeks after birth, this also cannot be taken for granted, because some people were christened many years after their birth.

As with everything in this game, you have to compare the records from as many sources as you can, and work out the truth if you can.

[janan]

Although it was normal for christenings to take place between 2 and 4 weeks after birth, this also cannot be taken for granted, because some people were christened many years after their birth.

Or in  the case of my family many were christened years after their birth or in some cases not at all!

Jan