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Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« on: Thursday 25 June 09 08:30 BST (UK) »

I am looking for help please in reading the details of the parents on the attached certificate for Robert and Elizabeth.

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Re: Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 June 09 08:44 BST (UK) »
Possibly

Thomas Byers, Ploughman
? Byers, MS Hall deceased

Matthew Kerr, labourer, deceased
Ellen ?
previous ? Kerr

Sorry cannot make out the rest at the moment
Booth, Hornsby, Northumberland & Durham
Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
Kirby, Lowe, Studholme, Geary, Emery, Baldock

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Re: Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 June 09 10:17 BST (UK) »
Ok ;D

Thomas Byers
Mary Byers, MS Hall, deceased

They appear on 1851 Census together but by 1861 Mary is not there. She must have died after the birth of their last child Jean in 1852 and before 1861 Census.

Can post census if you want ;)
Thomas is born 1809, Dumfries, Dumfriesshire and Mary 1811 Ferreagles, Kirkbut

Marriage;
Thomas BYERS
Mary HALL
19 June 1835
Dumfries, Dumfries, Scotland
Extracted record IGI at Familysearch

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Trish
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 June 09 10:22 BST (UK) »

Kerr;
It looks to me although I cant make out exact names that Mathew KERR is deceased and his Mother has remarried and is known as Elizabeth or Ellen ??

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)


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Re: Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 June 09 10:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks All Appreciated - Trish if you can post census that would be a great help  - can I ask I get alot of my info from Scotlands People - is that the best source ?

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Re: Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 June 09 11:37 BST (UK) »
1841 Census
Indexed incorrectly as  BYOS

Ketton Mains, Dumfries, Dumfriesshire

Thomas BYERS, 30, ag lab, born Dumfries
Mary, 30,
James, 5
Janet, 1
Thos Thomson, 35, ag lab



1851 Census
Crochmore,
Irongray, Kirkcudbrightshire
Census Ref. Irongray/3/15/10/1064

Thomas BYERS, 40, farm servant, born Dumfries, Dumf.
Mary, 40, wife, born Ferreagles, Kirkbud.
James, 15
Janet, 11
Margaret, 9
Mary, 7
Thomas, 5
William, 3
ELIZABETH, 1

James, Janet, Margaret, born Dumfries, other children Irongray.

1861 Census
Crochmore, Irongray, Kirkbudbrightshire
Census Ref. Irongray/3/2/24

Thomas BYERS, 53, Farm Overseer
Janet, 21
Margaret, 19
Thomas, 15, ag lab
William, 13, ag lab
ELIZABETH, 11
Jean, 9, born Irongray

Girls all just described as farmers daughter


Trish :)

Yes from what I have heard Scotlandspeople is great. I have not had to use it myself. Someone else can probably guide you thru it.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 June 09 12:11 BST (UK) »
I have just found a Family Tree for the Byers :)

They seem to be descended from William byers born 1848.
They have the wrong census entry though for 1851. that is the only one they have.
On it Thomas's parents are;

James BYERS and Janet SCOTT, but as census is wrong this may be too ???

I can contact them and get them to hopefully post on here if you want.

Trish
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Re: Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 June 09 12:53 BST (UK) »
Possible for the KERR parents?

Matthew KERR, Labourer
(Deceased)
Elizabeth Ellen DALZIEL
previously KERR MS MILLS (deceased)

The long tail of the Z running down over the first stroke of M in MS?  ???

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Re: Parents of Robert Kerr and Elizabeth Byers
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 June 09 12:59 BST (UK) »
The notes in the right margin - correspond to the corrections made and marked (1), (2) and (3)

one
Col 2

two
Col 5

3
Col 5

But can't make out what the writing is under each margin note.... The registrar's initials, signifying it is he who has made the corrections. Oh well;  thought it might have been something more 'telling'  :'(

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AMBLY
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