Scott family Melrose

[Hirdy]

Your latest information does make some sense. 

I have Robert Scott marrying Sarah Ann Body in Melbourne in April 1959.  They had a son Andrew in 1860 and another son Robert in 1861 both born in Melbourne.

They then had a daughter Sarah Ann (my ggrandmother) who was born in NZ (near Dunedin) in Sept 1863, followed by another daughter Minnie Jessie born in NZ 1865.  I can't find any information of the family actually going to and from NZ. 

On the death certificate of Sarah Ann Brown (she remarried in Melbourne in 1884), is another daughter Margaret listed (dead in 1911).  I've always assumed that she was born and died in NZ.

Your information may suggest that after Robert died in either NZ or England between 1865 & 1880 when the family went back to UK for a short time and then all emigrated back to Melbourne around 1880. 

I've also now heard from the American relative of John Scott, Robert's older brother, which will now fill in more gaps. 

I'd really appreciate any info you have.  Can you email me directly.

Chris

[MonicaL]

Chris, you've made contact with the US? Hurray   

bjean, welcome to RootsChat  You need to have done at least 3 posts on the main forum to be able to use the Private Messaging service. So, if you do a couple more here you will be able to do so. To send Chris a Private Message (PM), simply click on the small green scroll under his name on the l/h side of any of his posts and this will take you straight there (works like most email services with in/out boxes). Personal emails should only be sent via the PM service.

I wish you both well in your searches 

Monica

[bjean]

Hi Chris
New to this so cant reply direct yet. Our connection is to the eldest son Andrew so have most of the information from there down.  Only been on this part of the family for three weeks so not got back very far with the Scotts. Andrew and Joan Hope - was Andrew born in Melrose there was a birth there that I thought might be him in 1785 but that would make him 8 years younger than Joan. What are your thoughts on this.
There was a family story that a forebear a Baker's boy arrived in Aus around 16 - this could have been Robert or maybe just a story to cover old history
Possible marriage suggested on the chat room Sarah Aitchison 13 Dec 1844
Jean

[MonicaL]

Hi Jean

Not sure about that marriage to a Sarah Aitchison. These children show to a Robert Scott and mother with that name on IGI:

1. JOHN SCOTT  Birth: 11 MAY 1855 Selkirk, Selkirk
2. SCOTTMale Birth: 15 MAR 1858 Selkirk, Selkirk

Likely entry for this couple following their marriage in 1844 on the 1851 census:

Robert Scott 26, weaver woolen b. Stow Midlothian
Sarah Scott 28, b. Nenthorn, Roxburgh
Robert Scott 5, b. Galashiels, Selkirk
Jean Scott 1, b. Galashiels, Selkirk

Address: Edinburgh Road Sloethorn Bank, Selkirk

Family show in 1861 in Selkirk including the son John, aged 5, as above.

Monica

[bjean]

Thanks for that Monica - will have to keep searching.
Are the English death certificates as informative as the Victorian ones?
I believe we are searching for his death in England or Scotland between 1875 - 1880
Maybe Robert went to New Zealand first and married first wife there?
Jean

[Hirdy]

Robert Scott married Sarah Ann Body in Melbourne in 1859.  They had 2 sons in Melbourne before going to NZ where they had at least 2 daughers. 

You mentioned that the family went back to UK in 1875.  Where did you find this info?  I have located their return to Melbourne in 1880 on PRO Victoria passenger lists.

I would love to get all the info you have on Andrew (your relative) as I have almost nothing.

[bjean]

I found them on the outgoing passenger list  on the Northumberland in June 1875
Robert,  Sarah Ann, Andrew,  Robert, Sarah Ann and Minnie.  No Margaret.  Maybe she was the daughter from the first marriage- therefore older and did not go.
I did not know that the girls were born in NZ - do you have details?
Andrew married Emma Maxwell 1886 in Carlton. They had Emma, Andrew, Robert, Alex and Albert.
At this stage I have only followed direct relation Robert.
He married Ada Morris 1915 in Melbourne

[Hirdy]

bjean,

Your info. has really confused me, I had your Robert marrying someone else?  I'll fix up my data.  Was Robert a confectioner / baker as was his older brother Andrew and his father Robert?

I have the birth certificate of Sarah Ann Scott (from NZ) and I have the death certificate of Minnie.  I am happy to send you copies of these and anything else that may be useful on the Haslam side of your tree.

I do know that Andrew Scott was oldest brother of Sarah Ann Scott who married Thomas Rippon Haslam, who was brother of Mary Elizabeth Maxwell Haslam - brother & sister married brother & sister.  My mother's maiden name is Haslam.

Chris

[bjean]

Sorry Chris
I seem to have confused everyone including myself.
Robert Scott 1818 married ?  then Sarah Ann Body.
Son Andrew Scott 1860  married Mary Emma Maxwell Haslam usually referred to as Emma
Son Robert William Scott1890  married Ada Morris
Son Morris Maxwell Scott
Does this tally with you.
Jean