"Completed"JAMES family Irene Place Prahran Melbourne Victoria

[sparrett]

Hi chrismar and All,
I popped up the road and round a couple of corners this morning to take a look at 150 Williams Rd.
I think I really hoped to see "Earl's Barton" name still on the wall at the front door or on the fence, but despite all my peering through the gate, I don't think it is there any more.

You can see on Street View g**gle maps it is a lovely old Hawthorn brick house and quite substantial with a verandah on 2 sides and all embellished with cast iron lace.
The block is very deep and reaches almost halfway down Irene Place.
You will be interested to know, chrismar, that it seems almost 'untouched'  with the garden and window draperies very much in keeping with the house in its heyday.

As you can see I have had a good snoop which I greatly enjoyed

Cando, I will try to look in the WISE Post Office Directory next time I am at The Library and see if    W. James  appears at the address.

Thanks for reading the Probate document more accurately than I had. It 's bit more sensible now.

Sue 

[cando]

Sue I had a snoop yesterday and  on satellite view you will see there has been large extension to the original home. I think the probate documents listed the block with a 50 foot frontage and 150 feet deep.  Love the lovely old Hawthorn brick homes.

I also noted that there was mention of crops, liveststock etc in the probate documents. [Nil noted] Was he a retired farmer? 

I am wondering what  is known about William's other chn, apart from Agnes, from his first marriage?  Some of them may have even predeceased him as a couple were teenages in 1853 when they emigrated to Victoria.

Unfortunately the 1898 Argus has not been digitised. Of the 1890's decade only 1891 and 1892 have been processed or in the stage of being processed.  We will have to wait for our resident library sleuth, judb, to find William's death notice.

Cheers
Cando

[judb]

Here is the Death Notice

The Argus, Melbourne, Friday 25 February, 1898

JAMES - on the 24th February at his residence  Earl's Barton 150 Williams Rd Prahran, William, the beloved husband of Elizabeth James.

There was no funeral notice. Hmmm - which Elizabeth?? 

It was 98F that day (but a change was expected) and there had been terrible bush fires around Melbourne in the preceeding couple of weeks with a Fund set up to help victims.  There are a couple of articles about the money not being  distributed quickly enough.

Couldn't see any mention of him in the rest of the paper.

NO death or funeral notice for Elizabeth1 (died 1869)

Judith

[sparrett]

Judith, you are a Wonder!!!

What amazing little things you find to tell us.

It is very odd that there is no mention whatever of those children of his.

Perhaps they were just Very Private People

No funeral notice and apparently no headstone (although Cando has made valid comment on this)

I do hope chrismar enjoys all this wonderful information.

Sue

[judb]

   Thanks, Sue. 

The papers are so interesting - like the snippet about the bushfires.  All the newspapers are here at the library and it's warm and peaceful and I can't see all the housework I should be doing.

I meant to have a trawl for the older children's BMDs but it's too late now - must go and pay the phone bill or I'll be cut off and then no internet................

Judith

[bikermickau]

  Thanks, Sue. 

All the newspapers are here at the library and it's warm and peaceful
Judith

State Library? (Can't recall what the other section is called.)

[judb]

Hi BikerMick

Australian National Library   

Judith

[chrismar]

I have checked the extended Queensland list to see if any family members joined their sister in Brisbane and I have found a mention of a sister in 1886 living in Brisbane.  My grandmother only mentioned Lucy, Elizabeth (no children)and Charles whose children were Alfred and Ruth. I have found a mention of a John William James who died in Prahran on Rootsweb family trees. I found a note in our family album about Agnes that she studied music at Melbourne University(Iam not sure if that is correct, but it ties in with the creative arts.)
Thank you for the information on Irene Place, I have checked it out on google. I do not know much about it, than it was the family home of the James family.

[cando]

Marriage
JAMES Charles b.England
ALWAY Sarah Smith b. Gloucestershire
1872  Reg#4490

Births
JAMES Charles Alfred
Father Charles  Mother Sarah Smith ALWAY
At Malvern  1874  Reg# 3482
 
JAMES Ruth Elizabeth
Father Charles  Mother Sarah Smith ALWAY
At Malvern  1876  Reg#17464

Australian Electoral Rolls
Victoria 1909
JAMES Charles 28 Trinian Street, Prahran  Collector
JAMES Ruth Elizabeth 28 Trinian Street, Prahran  Teacher
JAMES Sarah Smith  28 Trinian Street, Prahran  Home duties

Deaths
JAMES Sarah Smith
Fathe: Alway Thomas Smith Mother Elizabeth AMOS
64 at Prahran  1912  Reg#3234

JAMES Charles
Father James William  Mother Elizabeth  UNKNOWN
At Prahran  92 years  1936  Reg#2828

JAMES Charles Alfred
Father James Charles  Mother Sarah  SMITH
At Balwyn  74 years  1948  Reg#8309

JAMES Ruth Elizabeth
Father Charles  Mother Sarah ALWAY
Death Place: KEW
At Kew   84 years   1962  Reg#5619

Cheers
Cando