"Completed"JAMES family Irene Place Prahran Melbourne Victoria

[chrismar]

Agnes's husband is George Edward Corfield(Born.1859) my mistake.Thank you for your research and responses. The information clarifies alot of what my grandmother told me in the 1980's, She passed away in 1989 at the age of 94 and it is only
the last few years have I started to sort through the information given to me and start to complie the family history. I realise, now, that I should have asked more questions. One extra thing, which I do not know if it possible to research, we were told  that Agnes James sang at the opening of the Malvern City Hall.

[cando]

He appears to have died 24/2/1889

Sue

This is the only death but in 1898  

JAMES William
Father James Jephat  Mother Elizabeth TAYLER
84 years  Armadale  1898  Reg#132

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

we were told  that Agnes James sang at the opening of the Malvern City Hall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvern,_Victoria

The hall was built in 1886. 

Cheers
Cando

[sparrett]

HI
Cando .

Apologies
The death date for the WILLIAM of the Will was indeed 1898 [24/2]

I will alter it in my posting.
Sue

[cando]

http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?searchTerm=malvern+town+hall

Some snippets of info about the hall when remodelled in 1927.

More being transcribed in 1886/1887
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?searchTerm=malvern+town+hall&textSearchScope=full&facet=decade:188&facet=yearInDecade:6

Check back on their progress at a later date and more articles will be online.

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

A little more

St Kilda Cemetery     
JAMES William   
Date of Service 25 Feb 1898    
84  years  Burial Baptist - Monumental Grave Compt C Grave 047    
Public Grave Y/N No    
This memorial is held in perpetuity - for all time

St Kilda Cemetery     
JAMES Elizabeth    
Date of Service 4 April 1869      
57 years   
Burial  Baptist - Monumental Grave Compt C Grave 047    
Public Grave Y/N    No    
This memorial is held in perpetuity - for all time

There does not appear to be a headstone as there is no memorial inscription for either of them.

Cheers
Cando

[sparrett]

Hi All,
It strikes me as all a bit odd.

Would someone else please read the Probate Document and reassure me that I do see a man of property who has given, in advance of his death, a great deal to his second wife, Elizabeth .

Has he died in a position where no MI is affordable?

He seems to have avoided Victoria's newspapers and , seemingly ,by Cando's searching, PO directory listings too.


Perhaps he was just very retirng by nature .  Maybe he  merely didn't believe in memorialisation!!
 
What do others think?
Sue

[cando]

Sue I searched the Sands & MacDougall directories not Post Office directories.  I think you had to pay for your entry in the directory.

I have just found a listing at 150 William Road, Prahran in the 1892 S & M Directory.  He is definitely not in the earlier directories.

1914 Post Office Directory
Williams Rd
150 Mrs E James [Earls Barton]

Earls Barton was the place of birth noted on the 1851 census for William.

Death
JAMES Elizabeth
Father Weir Robert  Mother Elizabeth  DONALDSON
At Armadale  82 years 1928  Reg#13081

Springvale Botanical Cemetery     
JAMES Elizabeth   
Date of Service 10 Oct 1928  Burial  Prebyterian Monumental Compartment B Section 4 Grave 15   
Public Grave -  No    
This memorial is held in perpetuity - for all time

So she was born 1846 and William JAMES 1814.

Sue the properties may have been transferred to avoid death duties.  Perhaps with his health failing it may have been a way of making sure his wife and two young sons had income from property rentals.  He had substantial mortgages as well.

It seems he only owned the actual house block at 150 Williams Road - cnr of Irene Place.  I thought initially it may have been a small farm, but evidently not so.  Wonder why it has been referred to as Irene Place the name of the side street and not the name of the property Earls Barton.

Perhaps there was a headstone on the JAMES grave and it has  deteriorated to such an extent, it is illegible.  Transcriptions were done  in 1987.

I was surprised to find a MI for my ggrandparents grave at St Kilda - they died in 1896 and 1897.   A kind person from RAOGK photographed it and it appears that one of my grandfather's brothers 'restored' the grave...probably in the 1940's.

Cheers
Cando

[judb]

I agree with you to some extent, Sue, although I also take the points that Cando made.

Seems odd that there were no bequests to his children but only to HER (E2)heirs etc.  However I note the family story that the older children's family broke up after the first wife died.  Alice was still around though to be named as an executrix.  And then he is buried with Elizabeth 1.

Grr I can't get through to the newspaper site at present.  Will have a search in the Melbourne paper for around the death date- see if I can find any more - won't be till late in the week, though.

I have been to Earl's Barton - not far from Northampton; the church is quite famous for its Saxon Tower which may have been built as a lookout for the Danes invasion.  The main employment within the village in the late 1800s and  1900s was shoemaking.

Cheers, Judith