Watkin Baker, Castleton Newport Monmouth?

[pedroparker]

Hi,
Im trying to trace the Baker side to my family tree and would be greatful if anyone could help.

My ggg grandfather was Watkin Baker b. abt 1849 Castleton Glamorgan, as it says on the census.

1871 32 Pentreguinea Road, St Thomas, Swansea, Glamorgan
Wakin Baker, h, 22, Railway Guard, b Castleton/Castletown Glamorgan
Phoebe Baker, w, 21, Pembrokeshire Solva
Margaret Ann Baker, d, 3, scholar, Pembrokeshire Solva
William John Baker, s, 2, Pentreguinea Glam
Watkin Edward Baker, s, 3months, Pentreguinea Glam

I can locate these after this date but as of yet have been unable to trace these people further back in the census's. Watkin Baker's birthplace seems to be Castleton which I found came under Newport at the time and I would not have thought it to come under Glamorgan. He does not appear on any census after 1871 and his wife Phoebe re-marries. I did find a death for Watkin Baker in Newport, Monmouth, sep q 1880 which would tie up to him, explaining why he would not show on later census.

I have his marriage cert to Phoebe Evans from 1867 and it states his father was also Watkin.

Any help in tracing him back further would be much appreciated, as I have had no luck in doing so, so far.

Thanks

pedro

[Laurina]

Here's his birth registration

Watkin Baker
4Q 1848  Newport M  Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire  26   125

Laurina

[Laurina]

How about this family? Could be Baker?

1851 Census - HO107/2453/34/28

Watkin Bicker 26 Head Peterstone, Monmouthshire - Farm Labourer
Margaret Bicker 24 Wife St Mellons, Monmouthshire
Watkins Bicker 2 Son Marshfield, Monmouthshire
William Bicker 4 Mo Son Marshfield, Monmouthshire

Laurina   

[Laurina]

Same family in 1871  - RG10/5350/29/6

Watkin Baker 47  Head  Peterstone, Monmouthshire
Margaret Baker 45  Wife St Mellons, Monmouthshire
Mary J Baker 13  Daug Marshfield, Monmouthshire
John Lewis 74  Visitor Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Maria Harris 19 Visitor  Marshfield, Monmouthshire

Laurina

[Laurina]

Father's marriage - right place, right time, unusual name.

Watkin Baker
2Q 1846  Newport M  Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire   26  199

As his wife is Margaret on the census there is a Margaret Mathews on the same page?

This couple appear in the 1881 census together.

Laurina

[Laurina]

1841 Census - HO107/747/23/20/5/2/4  - Tregare, Monmouthshire 

William Baker 42  - Farmer
Mary Baker 42 
Tos Baker 18 
Watkin Baker 16 
Thomas Baker 2 

Is this any help at all?

Laurina

[pedroparker]

Thanks Laurina that's awsum!

much appreciated. I had struggled very much to find any previous census to the ones I have. The Bicker could be the reason, I did come across a similar thing with another family name, it was transcribed as Maltos but should have been Matty.

Thanks again, wouldn't have found them without your help.

pedro

[justw70]

Hi Pedro,
Im not sure if you are still active on this website, so this may be a bit of a long shot.
I noticed one of your posts regarding Watkin Baker b1849, who you mentioned was your GGGgrandfather. Well he was also mine!!
I have quite a bit of information on Watkin, relevant to his death in particular. If you are still active on the site, let me know and we can talk some more.
Regards
Justin Williams

[sarah]

Hi Justin, welcome to RootsChat

Pedro was last online in the summer of 2020 hopefully they will reply soon.

Regards

Sarah