Cavendish Alberta - Looking for a needle in a haystack

[porcelayne ladye]

Hello I am trying to find out the location of CAVENDISH (Previously known as Pancras) ALBERTA. What would the district No be for this area.

I am trying to find out information on when my grandmothers brothers actually went out to Canada.  Without success. Frederick was born in 1887 and Anthony born in 1889.

I have Anthony's Canadian Passport which was issued in 1919 his address was given as Cavendish Alberta. It has dates of when he left Montreal for Liverpool and date stamps for arrival in England.

I knew from my grandmother they went out there and became a Farmers and this too is verified on Anthony's  passport. 

0n Ancestry this week I found his details on Incoming Passenger Lists 1878-1960 which verified dates and Places from his passport.

But no mention of Frederick returning with him. How can I find out is it called Homestead Records to find out when and where they lived in Cavendish. Also when they arrived. I would imagine it would be post 1909 when they would be 20 and 22 yeas old.

I had an email from another family member recently saying last known details for Frederick was in 1931  do not know if this was for Cavendish or somewhere else in Alberta. Still awaiting his reply

Any help an suggestions would be greatfully accepted. I am so used to going to Records offices and ploughing through but Canada is a bit of a hike for me and it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack with such a large Province as Alberta.

I omitted to give their surnames it was Newman.

Kind Regards


porcelayne ladye

[Lisaw]

Hi porcelayne ladye,

A quick search says its in the municpial district of Acadia no. 34. Looks fairly close to the Alberta/Saskatchewan border.

Cordially,
Lisa

[lilybell]

Hello,
Cavendish looks to be about 55 miles from Medicine Hat, Alberta.

Check the following website for Homestead Records abgensoc.ca/homestead

Click on search records and enter your ancestors names;you will find records for Frederick and Anthony.

Lilybell

[lilybell]

Hello Again,

If someone has a Ancestry membership perhaps they could look up Frederick and Anthony on the 1916 census for

Alberta,Saskatchewan and Manitoba. They are both listed. My membership has run out.

Lilybell

[MaureeninNY]

The 1916 census shows:
Anthony Newman single,farmer,born England 1891 Immigrated 1911
Home in 1916 is listed as:23, Medicine Hat, Alberta
at 21, 4, W 4, Pancras

Frederick Newman is listed as born 1889 and immigrated in 1910.

Medicine Hat is apparently District 40.


Maureen

[porcelayne ladye]

Hello Lisa Lillibell and Maureen
Many Thanks for your help . 

I will check out the homstead records on the site you suggest.

Many Many Thanks for finding them on the 1916 Census Had no idea this was even available.

You have given Full details for Anthony BUT was Frederick at the same address??

Now I have a 15 year gap to find Frederick in 1931 How do I do that. 

We are lucky in UK have our GRO Indexes or even free bmd. Does Canada have any equivalent?

Do homestead records gives dates from commencement to their leaving and moving on.  Sorry to sound so "thick" but this is all new to me.

ONCE AGAIN MANY MANY THANKS TO THREE FANTASTIC LADIES

porcelayne ladye

ps what would we do without you super people   

[porcelayne ladye]

Hello Lisa Lillibell and Maureen

ps  I forgot to ask just now. Maureen very kindly found them in 1916 Census if they Immigrated in 1910 and 1911 what are the chances of finding one or both of them in the 1911 Census.  Hope you don't think that's cheeky asking but I have no way of doing that here.


Kind Regards

porcelayne ladye

[Jacquie in Canada]

You can search the 1911 Canada census for free at this site:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/index.html
The site links the transcriptions to images at Library and Archives Canada so you can view the actual entries.

Regarding your BMD question, Canada does not have a central registry as it is considered a provincial responsibility. Unfortunately I don't know of any online BMD databases for Alberta. I'm not sure what the restrictions in Alberta are regarding privacy laws. If they are like most provinces then births from less than 100 years ago are protected. There is a bit of a range regarding privacy laws in various provinces for marriages and deaths so it could be anywhere from less than 50 - 80 years ago for marriages and less than 20 - 50 years for deaths but I'm just guessing on that.

Regarding the homestead records, if you go to the link lilybell provided (http://abgensoc.ca/homestead/) it explains what information is usually included in the file.

Jacquie

[MaureeninNY]

 :)I've looked for them in 1911, but no joy. Single males are so difficult to track down with any certainty.

Maureen