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can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« on: Tuesday 21 July 09 22:55 BST (UK) »
Sarah Pugsley. Married Richard Purchase Haggett. 1891. Newport Mon .

A son born 1892/3 also Richard Purchase Haggett. So why can't I find his birth Cert?
I thought everyone had to by law register a birth. Can anyone help here.
Thanks in advance for anything looking like a registration.

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Re: can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 23:03 BST (UK) »
hi have u got richard snrs birth ref cos ive just come across that one ?
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Re: can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 23:13 BST (UK) »
Yes. I have that reference.............Llanenny .1871

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Re: can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 23:15 BST (UK) »
The "1891" marriage appears in the Jun qtr of 1892!!

Presumably you mean you haven't found a birth ref for Richard jnr, it may be mistranscribed, be missing from the GRO index for some reason or he may not have been registered.

In a case like this it's always worth contacting the local (to the event) registrars for a search of the original register. It wouldn't be thre first time a GRO entry was missing or mistranscribed and the local registrars hold the only available copy of a document.




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Re: can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 23:22 BST (UK) »
I take it the Richard Purchase Haggett marriage in Stroud in 1906 is his second??  It's a huge coincidence of names if it isn't.

Have you found them on the 1901 census?  I cannot see them in England or wales  :-\
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 23:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you for trying. I did pop along sometime ago to the registras office. Sadly they didn't respond to my request. I just thought there maybe another method of tracing his birth.

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Re: can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 23:25 BST (UK) »
Yes. G.Grandad did marry again. Then emigrated to Australia. Leaving son/ex-wife to et on with it.

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Re: can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 23:30 BST (UK) »
I did have a peep just to see if he was born just prior to the marriage and registered as Pugsley, it doesn't appear to be the case (nothing appears for the surname just prior to the marriage).

I would ahve another bash at the local registrar, i have used dozens around the country and all have been helpful, though some are better than others.

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Re: can't find reference to G.dads birth help please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 23:52 BST (UK) »
Have you downloaded the divorce doc?
£8.50 (or it was when I did and you get loads of info)

Item details J 77/795/4177

Divorce Court File: 4177. Appellant: Richard Purchase Haggett. Respondent: Sarah Ann Haggett. Co-respondent: Joseph Powell. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [HD].

or their son's Medal Card??

Richard purchase Haggett
birth date 25 Feb 1892 (pre marriage date  ;))

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=7545153
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L