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Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« on: Sunday 26 July 09 17:24 BST (UK) »
Hi

I found my Dempsters on the 1911 census. I am trying to decipher what Eliza Dempster put down as her place of birth. It has been crossed out. Can anyone recognise the name?


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Re: Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 July 09 17:40 BST (UK) »
My guess is Cairncastle Co. Antrim.
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Re: Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 July 09 17:42 BST (UK) »
Hi,
    I would also guess the Parish of Carncastle.

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Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim

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Re: Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 July 09 17:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks both, I did think that too, but the first letter really looks like an " R" or even a "P". It looks really unlike the C below it.

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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867. HOBSON Tyrone

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Re: Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 July 09 18:16 BST (UK) »
Hi,   
   I agree, but if you look at www.thecore.com/seanruad there are only three townlands and one parish, ending in CASTLE, listed.

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Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim

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Re: Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 July 09 10:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The writer is very florid with capital letters, judging by the "A" in Antrim.

Perhaps the "C" in "Co." was written more plainly 'cos it starts only an abbreviation, not a name.

My vote would be for "Greencastle".

[Not crossed out.
 The writer was just over-enthusiatic in stroking the "t"!]

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The surname DEMPSTER derives from a 'judex' or 'judge' in a Scottish baronial court.

Since the early-20thC it has been recorded as synonymous with DEMPSEY in Belfast.

Ref:

The Book of Ulster Surnames
Robert Bell
The BlackStaff Press  1988  pp50-51
ISBN 0-85640-405-5 ppb

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Capt. Jock
WHITTLEY - Donegore, Ballycraigy, Newtownards, Guernsey, PALI
WHITTLE - Dublin, Glenavy, Muckamore, Belfast; Jamaica; Norfolk (Virginia), Baltimore (Maryland), New York
CHAINE - Ballymena, Muckamore, Larne
EWART, DEWART - Portglenone, Ballyclare
McAFEE, WALKER - Ballyrashane

"You can't give kindness away enough, it keeps coming back to you."
Mark Twain (aka Samuel CLEMENTS) [Family origins from Ballynure, Co. Antrim.]

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Re: Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 July 09 12:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you Kingkerswell and Capt Jock.

And thanks Capt Jock for your insight into the Dempster name.

Best wishes
Liscoole
MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867. HOBSON Tyrone

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Re: Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 July 09 17:05 BST (UK) »
I also vote for Greencastle.  That's the way I write my capital Gs.  RosemaryJoan
Cully, Bannister, McConnell, Wallace (Co. Armagh)  Anderson, Ross (Co. Antrim), Gray, Truesdale (Co. Down)
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Re: Can anyone decipher this place of birth?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 July 09 11:42 BST (UK) »
Almost certainly Carncastle, and definitely crossed out, probably by the enumerator, as only County names were to be entered. Thank goodness lots of people entered more detail.

See the whole page:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001437961/

Adrian
STEVENSON County Derry;  KINSMAN;  BATTERSBY Dublin
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