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Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« on: Friday 31 July 09 01:03 BST (UK) »
Hello,

This is regarding the seemingly endless search to find my G-Grandmother Elizabeth Heyes and her family before she married in 1911.

All I know is she was born in about 1885 and I want to rule this family in or out...

In 1881 they lived at School Brow in Rainford and there was

Thomas Heyes - Head - 31 - Born Rainford - Coal Miner
Hannah Heyes - Wife - 26 -  Born Rainford
Mary Heyes - Daugther - 6 - Born Rainford
Thomas Heyes - Son - 5 - Born Rainford
William Heyes -Son - 2 - Born Rainford


Anyone even remotely like an Elizabeth living with them in later census'?


Thankyou

Jonathan
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 July 09 01:08 BST (UK) »

Hi Jonathon

1891 has them as follows..

Thomas 41 Collier
Hannah 38
Polly 16  ( this is most likely Mary )
Thomas 15 Collier
William 12 Scholar
Ellen 7 Scholar

All born Rainford, living 39 Douton Street, Prescot, Ecclestone, Lancashire.

The 1901 shows an Elizabeth HEYES born about 1890 Upholland Lancashire parents Robert and Ellen, siblings Alice 7, Mary 4 and Margaret 2.


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Re: Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 July 09 20:04 BST (UK) »
There are two Elizabeth Hayes in the 1901 census of St Helens:
EH born 1884 St Helens daughter of Mary and Robert and sister of Samual b. 1879
EH born 1885 St Helens neice in the household of Jane Ellison (nee Littler) which also includes grandmother and 3 boarders.

I didn't see them in 1891. But then maybe you are not sure she came from here?

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Re: Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 July 09 21:38 BST (UK) »
Do you have her marriage cert?  If not, it may be worth ordering it as it should show the name of her father  :)

Just a thought!

There are 3 Elizabeth Heyes on lancashirebmd between 1882 and 1889  ::)  R.
Wests of West Wycombe.
Druces of High Wycombe
Cork(e)s of Kent
Goodwins of Kent
Taylors of Liverpool and Dysart
Truemans of Liverpool
Lavells of Ireland and Liverpool
McGowans of Scotland and Liverpool


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Re: Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 July 09 21:51 BST (UK) »
Yes I do have her Marriage Certifcate. Thomas Heyes who in 1911 was 'Day Wage Man in Coal Mine'

We'll track her down yet!

Jonathan
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 February 10 01:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello

Just to update this search.

First I got the birth certificate for Elizabeth's second child Josiah Jackson in 1919:

This says her name is Elizabeth Ann Jackson (Formally Heyes)

Secondly I got her death certificate which says she died 16th December 1921 aged 36, and again her name is Elizabeth Ann

So the age is sticking at 1885 and the name Elizabeth Ann.

Though previous searches have yeld nothing for Elizabeth living with Thomas Heyes/Hayes.

Thanks

Jonathan
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 February 10 01:48 GMT (UK) »
What about this one

1901 
51 Russell Street

Margaret Heyes  Head  Widow  age 69   Born StHelens
Elizabeth A Heyes  Grandaughter  single  age 16   ?marker at the glassworks    born St Helens


also on the 1891 ?
43 Eldon Street

Issac Littler  Head  married  43  Coal miner from Billinge
Elizabeth Littler  wife  56  StHelens
Ann Halliday  Boarder  Widow  age 78  born Ashton in Makerfield
Elizabeth Heyes  age 9  Boarder  born StHelens
Elizabeth A Heyes  age 6  Boarder  born StHelens  *
Mary Jane Heyes  age3  Boarder  tHelens

ARNOLD, PARTINGTON, FOSTER in StHelens
BEBBINGTON, FINDLOW in Northwich
BURROWS,Billinge,Northwich
DUMBILL/DUMBELL, Gt Sankey, St Helens
EDMUNDSON in Northumberland, Warrington, St Helens, Manchester
HENDERSON, Northumberland,St Helens
LIPTROTT, Billinge
BURROWS, Billinge, Northwich

BOAST, Suffolk,Widnes,St Helens :-
http://rattyclan.tribalpages.com/

https://sites.google.com/view/ss-samwater

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Re: Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 February 10 02:22 GMT (UK) »
But then I found this on IGI

Elizabeth Ann Hayes
Christening 21 Jan 1885 St Thomas Eccleston St Helens
Father Thomas Hayes, Mother Mary

Doesnt say if its extracted or not just Batch I029200 which is an odd no, this takes you to further
Hayes/Heyes children, none of which has the same parents.
ARNOLD, PARTINGTON, FOSTER in StHelens
BEBBINGTON, FINDLOW in Northwich
BURROWS,Billinge,Northwich
DUMBILL/DUMBELL, Gt Sankey, St Helens
EDMUNDSON in Northumberland, Warrington, St Helens, Manchester
HENDERSON, Northumberland,St Helens
LIPTROTT, Billinge
BURROWS, Billinge, Northwich

BOAST, Suffolk,Widnes,St Helens :-
http://rattyclan.tribalpages.com/

https://sites.google.com/view/ss-samwater

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Re: Heyes - St Helens - 1891 0n - Please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 February 10 01:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi, MummyG

Those both looks interesting. If the IGI is correct then that rules one in.
Its certainly in the right area. Can only be so many Elizabeth Ann Heyes/Hayes in that area who are born abt1885 and whose father is named Thomas.

I'll just have to be prepared to get some wrong certificates. I'll take them all, if only one has a father named Thomas.

Thanks to you, as I say - I can rule this one in.

Thanks Again

Jonathan
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster