"Murino" Lodge, Fairview

[Happy Chappy :-)]

Hi

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Croyden Park House (Official Training Ground "Irish Citizen Army" )
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The Citizen Army Trained in "Croydon Park House",  this was their official training ground.
Present day Marino, at the time it would of been located in Clontarf West.
 
The original name of the house was PennyVille.

The house was demolished in 1926 to make way  for the Marino housing Scheme. Croydon Park House was located in the Croydon Estate next to Charlemont Estate (present day Marino)

The entrance to the Croydon Estate was at the top of Fairview Avenue, and a side entrance at the top of Philipsburgh Avenue.

Croydon Park House was located in Marino, Dublin 3, Ireland - "Murino Lodge"
may have been lost in the translation.



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Marino House (Charlemont Estate present day Marino)
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There was a  Marino House but  had nothing to do with the "Irish Citizen Army" during the 1916 Rising  "Marino House" was occupied by the Christian Brothers.

There was several entrances to the Charlemont Estate, one was on the front of Fairview Strand (Mart) and another on the Malahide Road (Donnycarney End).

The owners of Marino House prior to Christian Brothers was Thomas Adderley step Father to Lord Charlemont who built the Casino. There was a Tunnel that was built from the Casino to "Marino House" for servants.

After the Christian Brothers left "Marino House" circa 1926, it changed hands and fell into ruin, the whole area of Marino was a hot bed of activity during 1916 and the War of Independence.

After Howth Gun Run (1914) the rifles were stored in various location around Marino - some were stored  in Marino House, but the bulk was stored in Father Mathews Park in Fairview (a stones throw away) located behind present day Fairview Church.

*The Irish Citizen Army - gun practice for 1916 would of taking place in
  Croydon Park House / Marino

* The Irish Volunteers - gun practice  for 1916 would of taking  place in
   Father Mathews Park/ Fairview

* Marino House during this period was under control of the Christan Brothers


If you need any  more info please contact me........

Cheer's
CPH

[Happy Chappy :-)]

"My grandfather was actually referring to Marion House, which is now St.Marys College in Donnycarney"

A slight correction here

* Christian Brothers moved from "Marino House"
    (located @ the Fairview end of the Malahide Road) 
     to  the newly built St.Mary College @ present day Griffith Avenue,
    Marino at the turn of the century.

*  Crydon Park House- Demolished 1926 "Irish Citizen Army"

*  Marino House - Demolished 1926 
 
* Father Mathews Park North (CY Golf Course today)

* Father Mathes Park South (Infant School today, this is where the Howth gun were 
                                              stored for GPO, Irish volunteers)

There was several Lodges in the area, but these were homes in this context. I know
in Ulster a lodge means an association.

At one time or another all the main figures in 1916  would have been active in Marino.


Regards
CPH

[lanigangenealogy]

part of 1913 Dublin Map

Moderator comment: copyright image removed.  Map can be found here:

http://roots.swilson.info/dublincity_1913/dublincity_1913.html

[Happy Chappy :-)]

Hi

This is Croydon Park House circa 1923

Regards,
CPH

[lanigangenealogy]

A company of the Irish Citizen Army at Croydon House, Croydon Park, Clontarf, Co. Dublin (the recreation centre of the ITGWU), 1914.

Copyright image removed
See this website for photo of Croydon House- http://multitext.ucc.ie/viewgallery/356

[Happy Chappy :-)]

Hi lanigangenealogy

Thanks for the Photo it was taking around April 1913 -

The head of the unit in this photograph (far right) - Jack White

The top row the Girl in the middle is "Katie Connolly" sister to
Sean Connolly first guy shot in 1916 at the Castle

Also Flagged to her left and right is Mick Mallin + Frank Robbins

Do you have any info/photos of the area - am a keen local history guy -

Kind Regards
CPH

[lanigangenealogy]

Hi CPH,

My interest in this topic has only just arisen after discovering a deceased relative from Fairview had joined the volunteers at an early age - he was just 15 when he fought in the GPO. He resided at Annadale Avenue, Fairview at the time of the 1911 census. He obviously didn't have to go far to travel to the volunteer drills in Fr Mathew Park. It also accounts for how he got drawn in to the struggle despite the fact that he wasn't from a political family.

[Happy Chappy :-)]

Hi lanigangenealogy


There was a lot of famous 1916'ers in Croydon Park House (Irish Citizen Army)
and Volunteers (Fr.Mathews Park).

What was his name see can i find something on him

Regards
CPH

[lanigangenealogy]

What was his name see can i find something on him

Edward Byrne - living at 9 Annadale Avenue in 1911 census aged 11 years old.

He later becomes one of the squad "Twelve Apostles". I don't want to infringe on an existing topic - See other discussion http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,406100.0.html but if you have anything to add on the background to the volunteers in Fairview at that time then that would be great - or other references to Edward.