marriage weir/black

[rawlinson]

please ,anybody out there do a search for the marriage of  EBENEZER WEIR= ELIZABETH BLACK in glasgow
      their son my g.grandfather was HORATIO WEIR born 1846 if that helps

               thanks ....dave weir.

[daval57]

On ScotlandsPeople the only marriage I can see around the correct time in the whole of Scotland is
14/08/1836 Ebenezer Weir to Mary Agnew Glasgow
GROS 644/001 0410 0723

[daval57]

Just having a quick look at census records.
1861 census
63 Nelson St, Glasgow
Horatio Weir

Father's Name:    Ebenezer
Mother's Name:    Mary

Where born:    Glasgow, Lanarkshire

Address:    63 Nelson St

Household Members:    

Ebenezer Weir    45 Boottree & Last Maker born Cathcart
Mary Weir    49 Glasgow
Ebenezer Weir    18 Boottree & Last Maker Glasgow
Alfred Weir    17 Boottree & Last Maker Glasgow
Esloine Weir    15 scholar Glasgow
Joy Weir    13 scholar Glasgow
Horatio Weir    11 scholar Glasgow
   

[daval57]

What is your source for the name Elizabeth Black?

[daval57]

I notice Horatio's wife was Elizabeth ('81 census). Are you getting them mixed up? 

Dave

[daval57]

This entry from 1851 census is interesting. Same family? 
I haven't fully analysed it yet. I'm running low on time this afternoon.
Dave


1851 census
84 North Street Barony

Ebenezer Weir
Household Members:    

Ebenezer Weir  35 Grocer Wine & Spirit seller
Mary Weir    39 Grocer Wine & Spirit Cellar
Juliana Weir    14 scholar
Ebenezer Weir    9 scholar
Alfred Weir    7 scholar
Zelena Weir    5 scholar
Joy Weir    3
Hanitia Weir    1
Eliza Chrisholm    16 servant
Janet Chisholm    12 servant

Hope this gets you somewhere.
Dave

[daval57]

I've just compared the two census results.
Apart from the obvious change in occupation of Ebenezer and a few slight spelling differences*, I would say that there are more than enough similarities to say that this is definitely the same family.

Dave


*probably transcription errors. Original docs can be viewed on ScotlandsPeople - my source was Ancestry.

[rawlinson]

daval57  ive got the death cert of haratio weir died 5.12.1916. aged 70 ,he was the widower of elizabeth henderson,father was ebenezer weir bootlast maker ,deceased. mother elizabeth weir m.s . BLACK deceased...does m.s mean maiden.

[daval57]

Yes, m.s. means maiden surname.

Who registered the death?
It could be that whoever registered death made a mistake. Sometimes grandchildren registered deaths and were unsure of grandparents.

Also possible Mary Agnew died and then Ebenezer re-married Elizabeth Black? or was 'living in sin' with her? 

I really need to rush now but will look back in later.

Dave