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Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« on: Wednesday 12 August 09 14:41 BST (UK) »
Would anyone have any info on my gggrandmother i know it's a long shot but who know's i could strike it lucky.

I am trying to find the history of my gggrandma i do not know her maiden name on the 1901 census she is married to Philip Berry and they had 5 children they are at the time of the census living in Burnley,England.

On the census where you have to put where your born Mary just wrote Ireland no county so cannot pin her down.

Would love to know any informatiopn regarding her family in Ireland before she moved any info would be so much appreciated.

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                                                Kellie-Ann

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Re: Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 14:51 BST (UK) »
Kellie-Ann, have you tried the 1911 Census? I have found that on that a person added a place name to the Ireland that had been the only detail previously.

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Re: Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 14:52 BST (UK) »
I would look for her maiden name first by searching for a birth cert for one of the children, or a marriage cert.

were all the children born in England ?



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Re: Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 15:02 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for your replies i tried to look for marriage certificate but it just had philip berry's name on they married in 1870 in Burnley.
Also i cannot get access to the the 1911 census my laptop for some reason unknown to me refuses to let me gain access, every other geneology site i can access but not the 1911
Yes Shane all the children were born in Burnley..
 
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Re: Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 15:06 BST (UK) »
1901 Mary is born 1851, Ireland. RG13/3866/13/18

1891 Census;
Burnley, Lancs
RG12/3362/44/11
Phillip Berry born 1843
Mary 1850
Harry 1876
Susy 1878
Isaac 1880
Mary 1882
Sarah 1888
Nellie 1890
All born Burnley except for Mary

Marriage;
Philip BERRY
September 1870
Burnley 8e 379
2 males on page, 1 female Mary SMITH ::)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 15:19 BST (UK) »
1881 Census has her born ARMAGH, IRELAND
Philip is down as PHLIP, born 1843, Burnley :P

If you dont have access to Census you can find 1881 on Familysearch.

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Re: Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 15:20 BST (UK) »
I think I found the family in 1901 Philip-59 Mary-50 plus children Lucy, Isaac, Mary Ellen, Sarah & Nellie (also found them in 1891) (edit : just spotted that trish1120 posted this info already...)

This looks like a good match for the birth index for one of the children on freebmd :

 Births Sep 1880 / Lancashire

 Name : Berry    Isaac       
 registration district : Burnley    
 volume : 8e   : page 188   

A birth cert would give you Mary's maiden name which would be required to trace her roots in Ireland.

The other other Isaac Berry born in Lancashire around the right time is an  Isaac Sellers Berry born in Ulverston district in 1878


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Re: Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 15:28 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou
Trish and Shane you are brill yes isaac is my ggrandad from burnley.
Where did Harry come from i did not have him he eluded me Well done ;D
Mary Smith then eh now i have a surname,do you know how far Ireland's census's go back to
I am soooooooooo excited
           Thankyou to you both
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Re: Help please Mary Berry born Ireland moved to Burnley,Lancs
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 August 09 15:37 BST (UK) »
Excellent Shane :)

Forgot to say in 1881 they are not in Burnley but Habergham Eaves, Lancs

1871 Census
Acc.Road Wood Top, Stephensons Buildings
Habergham Eaves, Lancs
RG10/4151/18/29

Philip BERRY, 28, mar, head, coal miner, Lancs, Barley
Mary Berry, 22, amr, wife, Lancs, Burnley
Harry Berry, 3mths, son, born Lancs, Hab Eaves

Few mistakes here one would think :P

Also think that Harry, born 1870/1 has died as ther is a Harry aged 5 in 1881 Census. There are possible deaths aged 0/1 on Freebmd.

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