1881 DOWN Family St Helier, where was Joan born? COMPLETED.

[gene-genie]

Hi,

I wonder whether anyone can help me establish where Joanna Down was born, this entry just says England.  I am hoping it's Devon or better still Buckfastleigh.  If so then she is in my family tree, christened  Joan Stentiford 1818 d/o John and Dorothy. 

Again if I am right then she and Richard Down a St Helier man,  married Dec Q 1849 in Torrington district Devon.  They must have returned to Jersey by 1854 when their daughter was born, or perhaps earlier.  I cannot find Richard on the 1841 Jersey census - he would have been 24 - I wonder, given his skill at wrangling, whether he was a soldier when he and Joan met in Devon?

Here's the 1881 census entry:

Dwelling     32 Chevalier Road
     Census Place    St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands

 Richard DOWN      Head      M      Male      65      St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands      Livery Stable Keeper Employing 12 Men      
 Joanna DOWN      Wife      M      Female      64      England            
 Elizabeth J. DOWN      Daur      U      Female      27      St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands      Book Keeper (Clerk)      
 Artelus DOWN      Son      U      Male      24      St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands            
 Ann DOWN      Daur      U      Female      23      St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands            
 Catherine BARRY      Servant      U      Female      45      Ireland      General Servant Domestic      

[Tati]

Hi Gene-Genie,

The 1861 census says Devon, and there's a mother in law Elizabeth Burrow (age 77, also born Devon)

 

[gene-genie]

Thanks for your help.   Burrow isn't a name I recognise - my Buckfastleigh  Joanna still a bit of a mystery - looks like this Joanna may have been born Winkleigh Devon.. living Winkleigh in 1851....her maiden name was either Stentiford or Ford.  According to FreeBMD two Joanna's married in Torrington Dec Q 1849........

[AMBLY]

The Joanna DOWN in Jersey 1861, is also there in 1851 with her husband Richard.
Their eldest son is 5, born abt 1846 in St Helier, Jersey.

I have found a tree on A***try which says: Richard DOWN of Winkleigh, married Joanna FORD, b 1825 Winkleigh, dau of William FORD and Joanna. The FORD family, incl.  dau Joanna age 15 are in Winkleigh in 1841

Cheers
AMBLY

[sal]

Hi Gene-Genie
On the Jersey Heritage Trust Website there are baptisms for the three children mentioned on the 1881 census.

http://jerseyheritagetrust.jeron.je/

Elizabeth Jane Down born 15/4/1853. Baptised 8/5/1853
Artelus Down (Archelaus) born 27/5/1856 Baptised 11/6/1856
Ann Down born 7/1/1858 Baptised 27/1/1858
All with parents Richard Down and Joanna Burrow, fathers occupation Livery Stable Keeper
There are also five other children with the same parents
Thomas Down born 14/1/1852 Baptised 25/1/1852
Henry Down born 9/11/1845 Baptised 7/12/1845
Richard Francis Down born 20/1/1848 Baptised 6/2/1848
John Down born 1/11/1849 Baptised 21/11/1849
Mary Bevan Down born 29/6/1860 Baptised 15/7/1860

The mothers maiden name would tie in with the 1861 census that Tati found with a mother in law Elizabeth Burrow.

The references for the baptisms which were all at St Helier Church (Town Church)
G/C/03/A2/14 for years between 1841 - 1848
G/C/03/A2/15 for years between 1848 - 1855
G/C/03/A2/16 for years between 1855 - 1862

Hope this helps
Sal

PS the Baptism pages take a while to down load they are quite big files

[gene-genie]

Yes, it looks like this is  different Joanna altogether.

The two Joanna's I mentioned who married 1849:

Joanna  Ford of Winkleigh b 1825 to William and  Joanna FORD, married Richard DOWN  (apparently of Winkleigh Devon.)
The other Joanna who married William SAUNDERS  She was Stentiford but born Coldridge Devon abt 1820; neither of them mine.

Thanks for your help
Gene-genie