Lost Arthur Jenkins

[CaroleW]

Sorry - should have asked in my previous reply but were either of the witnesses surname Jenkins?

Re: 1891.  Looking at all Arthur Jenkins b 1887-1889 Glamorgan with a father Thomas shows only 2 entries

The one shown above and Arthur Llewellyn Jenkins whose father Thomas was a coal miner.  However - that Arthur is with his family in 1911

Assuming Thomas may have died pre-1891 I omitted his name from any search but there are only 10 entries and none has just a mum

[Retpara]

Thank you for your help CaroleW, it's greatly appreciated the information you asked for is that the two witnesses was 1 Hugh A Lewis my grandmothers brother and 2 a Jimmie Jones whom I have no information about.
Many thanks,
Retpara.

[CaroleW]

Hi

So no clues there then!!

I am starting to wonder if he was illegitimate and made up a fathers name when he married to appear "respectable"

[Retpara]

Hi CaroleW,
That could be another avenue to look at, as on the wedding certificate showed him living at 43 Pentwyn Ave when he got married which I wrongly assumed that to be the family home but later found that he was a lodger. This is why I am unable to trace him or his family line.
Retpara.

[CaroleW]

Hi

When I come up with the idea of a possible illegitimate birth, I usually start the ball rolling by looking for a female Jenkins marriage in Glamorgan between around 1888- March 1891

I then try to match them with their spouse on the next census to see if they have a son Arthur

BUT - then I looked at the number of female Jenkins marriages on freebmd - there are absolutely loads

I can't find which registration district would have covered Penrhiwceiber in those days as that may help to narrow it down a bit (always assuming the info he gave on the 1911 is really his birthplace)

[Retpara]

Hi CaroleW,
Thanks again, I think I am banging my head on a brick wall with this one as I was saying on an earlier post, he put the wrong birthplace for his wife Gwen Ellen as Penrhiwceiber which is associated to the LLanwonno, Pontypridd district. I have traced her birthplace to Blaenau Ffestiniog, Mereionethshire so it is possible he might have put his birthplace as the wrong one also. I did find a Thomas Jenkins living in Aberdare which is in the same valley,40 years of age and being single, do you think this could be his father and his parents were divorced.
Retpara.

[CaroleW]

Hi

No - divorce in those days only happened for the very rich.  This is my "theory"

He was illegitimate

His mother married between his birth and 1891 and he is shown under her married name on the 1891/1901 censuses

He made up a fathers name when he married - he was probably safe with an occupation like collier in Wales!!

OR - but less likely

He was legitimate and father Thomas died pre-1891 and mum re-married etc etc

Although it could happen - the timescale between his birth in 1888/89 - fathers death - and mum's re-marriage is quite tight

[Retpara]

Hi CaroleW, Thanks for the advice once again, I think it's back to the drawing board with this one, I have one chance left, he has one grandchild left  alive, so I will try and contact her to see if she can remember anything but I think she might have problems remembering. Fingers crossed.
Thanks again,
Retpara.