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Re: SCOTT's of Hawick
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 16 February 20 09:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi and Welcome to RootsChat Bec,

I notice you mention Henry Braefoot SCOTT married Elizabeth THOMAS and that she was born in Australia.

I am not related to either of them, but I understand that Henry married Elizabeth THOMSON, in South Australia in 1868.    So I share the following info

Henry SCOTT son of Thomas SCOTT was aged 29 when he married Elizabeth THOMSON, daughter of Robert THOMSON.  They were married at House Caurnamount, Angason, in South Australia. Elizabeth was aged 18.  The marriage date : 13 March 1868 The ref no. 75/109.   

South Australia's bdms are as scant on information as English and Welsh certs for that era, so it will have been quite a task for you to have determined any family history information about that Henry or his father based on the S.A. marriage certificate.  :)

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I am looking for my Ancestors. I am in Australia and have traced back to:

Henry Braefoot Scott[/b] (b1836) m Elizabeth Thomas (b1850 Australia)

Thomas Scott (b1805 Yarrow) m Elizabeth Armstrong (b1805 Cavers)[/b][/b] and had Children Thomas (b1831), William (b1833), John (b1834), Henry Braefoot (b1836), Elizabeth (b1938), Elizabeth (b1840), Mary (b1843), Jessie (b1844) and James (b1846)

thomas Scott (b1769 Yarrow) m Marion Tod (b1768 Ettrick) and had children Jean (b1793), Elizabeth (b1795), Alison (b1797), Agnes (b1799), Henry (b1801), Margaret (b1803), Thomas (b1805), Michail (b1807), John (b1809) and James (b1812)

I am unsure on Thomas Scott and MArion Todd - who their parents and ancestors are. I have one site which takes them back to Sir Walter Scott but there is no backup for this. Can anyone help?

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Re: SCOTTs of Hawick
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 16 February 20 10:24 GMT (UK) »
There is an extensive tree at Geni https://www.geni.com/people/Henry-Scott/6000000020611538386 - are you in touch with the managers of that tree? Where did their information on the parentage of Thomas Scott and Elizabeth Armstrong come from?
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Re: SCOTT's of Hawick
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 16 February 20 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Here is an obit to Henry, giving he was from 'Scotland' ... but loads of family history info for his descendants...  :) https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139566275 Cootamundra Herald 6 Jan 1911.   Also probate info : https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/37482320 Burra Record 12 Apr 1911

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Re: SCOTT's of Hawick
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 16 February 20 11:17 GMT (UK) »
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/39177663  South Australian Register 27 March 1868
Marriages
SCOTT-THOMSON
On the 13th March at Caurnamount, Murray river, by the Rev J Roddick, Henry, fourth son of Thomas SCOTT, Esq., Deloraine, to Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Robert THOMSON, Esq, Caurnamont, Murray River.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197756334  14 June 1881 Evening Journal
Death
The friends of the late Thomas SCOTT of Deloraine are informed that his funeral will leave his late residence on Thursday June 16, for the new Cemetery, Kersbrook. 

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197756657  Evening Journal 23 June 1881
SCOTT - On the 14th June, at his residence, Deloraine, Thomas SCOTT, aged 76 years.  A colonist of 42 years.

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Re: SCOTT's of Hawick
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 16 February 20 18:41 GMT (UK) »
thomas Scott (b1769 Yarrow) m Marion Tod (b1768 Ettrick) and had children Jean (b1793), Elizabeth (b1795), Alison (b1797), Agnes (b1799), Henry (b1801), Margaret (b1803), Thomas (b1805), Michail (b1807), John (b1809) and James (b1812)

I am unsure on Thomas Scott and MArion Todd - who their parents and ancestors are. I have one site which takes them back to Sir Walter Scott but there is no backup for this. Can anyone help?

Bec

1807 Yarrow Parish Militia List

There was a Thomas Scott living at Hanginshaw

Gideon and Walter living at Kirkhaugh

James at Lewinshope

Gideon  at Ladhope

James Junior and John at Gilmansheugh (spelling)

Thomas at Deloraine (spelling)

Walter and Mungo at Dodhead

Alex at Newburgh

William at Dryhope

Robert at Helmburn

John at Deloraine (spelling)

James at Single

Robert at Kirkhope

Robert at Catslacknow

Henry at Lewinshope

Thomas at Nether Deloraine (spelling)

Gerorge at Ettrick Bridge

Gideon at Kirkhope

Walter at Bengerburn

The attachment is the warning in the births records at Yarrow



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Re: SCOTTs of Hawick
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 16 February 20 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Interesting to note that there are Scotts at Deloraine, and that Thomas Scott died in 1881 at Deloraine. Presumably he called his property in South Australia after his home in the Borders.
See https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NT3320

Have you viewed the baptisms of the children of Thomas Scott and Elizabeth Armstrong to see if they mention the parents' residence, and are any of the witnesses Scotts from Deloraine? What about the baptisms of the children of William Scott and Marion Tod?

There are at least three households of Scotts at Deloraine in 1841.
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SCOTT's Delorainsheil - Yarrow -Etrick
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 16 February 20 21:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all. I am new to this so still feeling my way on how best to move forward. I am very confident in what I have on Henry - he moved to Cootamundra where I grew up so I have a lot of confidence in what I have on him.
Unfortuantely the Geni site line stops at Thomas Scott and Marion tod and there is no source document. I believe Marion’s parent lived at Gamescleugh near Ettrick, where she was also Baptized on 28 Feb 1768. Thomas apparently lived at Deloraineshiel settlement near Yarrow but I have nothing on his parents or much on him confirming dates. I do have a copy of all his children up to 1809 which he registered with the childrens date of birth at Yarrow Parish. He listed himself as a Herd. There is a record in the 1812 of a thomas Scott at Stanhopefoot, Ettrick.
But otherwise I have hit a dead end with Thomas and Marion.
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Re: SCOTT's of Hawick
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 16 February 20 22:36 GMT (UK) »
 :)  I wonder if Deloraine, Barossa, in South Australia was actually a locality rather than just the name of Thomas SCOTT's farm  :)

person or persons .... set fire to Sheepyard at Malcolm's Flat .... Thomas Scott, Deloraine, Barossa.

7 November 1896 Adelaide Observer https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/162365193
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On 27th October at Deloraine, E.A. Scott, wife of the late Thomas Scott, in her 92nd year.  A colonist of 57 years.

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Re: SCOTT's of Hawick
« Reply #35 on: Monday 17 February 20 00:13 GMT (UK) »
https://bound-for-south-australia.collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/1839Moffatt.htm  - passengers on the Moffatt arriving South Australia 1839 ... SCOTT family included.

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