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Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« on: Tuesday 25 August 09 12:37 BST (UK) »
Samuel Wells and Agnes Carlyle, second wife, married ? had three children
1. Margaret BC 1813..Middliebie...Died 1821
2. James Carlyle wells born 31 December 1822 Middliebie...Died 14 December 1890, Benalla, Victoria, Australia.
3. Samuel wells, BC1826.
Looking to try and open up the line on both Samuel Wells senior and Agnes Carlyle. Dont know the names of both sets of parents for the two.
Also what happened to their son Samuel Wells?

Can you help?
Regards Jill
Wells-Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Carlyle -Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Underwood - Ruthwell,Dumfrieshire
Grierson - Ruthwell,Dumfrishire
O'Halloran- Limerick
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Re: Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 15:17 BST (UK) »
1841 census for Middlebie - all b Dumfries

Samuel Wells 55  shoemaker
Mary  30 
Samuel  15 
John Smith 12 
Peter Wells 2
Middlebie ED 5 Page  2 Line 1200

In 1851 - Samuel jnr is in lodgings in Midlothian - occ journeyman shoemaker
Kirkliston ED 1 Page  8 Line 9

1851 for Middlebie - all b Middlebie except Isabella

John S Wells 21 plate layer
Isabella   24  b Annan
Samuel S   8 Months 
Mary   42  mother
Peter   12  brother
Agnes  3  sister
Middlebie ED 3 Page  6 Line 23

Just a thought - could the John Smith on the 1841 census be John Smith Wells?
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Re: Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 15:41 BST (UK) »
1861 for Kirkliston Linlithgowshire  West Lothian - children all b Kirkliston

Samuel Wells 35 b Middlebie Dumfries - shoemaker
Charlotte  37  b Cowie Edinburgh
Mary   7 
Samuel   6 
Agnes C   5 
Peter 5 Months 
Kirkliston ED 1 Page  12 Line 15

SAMUEL WELLS    Spouse:  CHARLOTTE WHITELAW 
Marriage:  05 JUN 1853   Kirkliston, West Lothian
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Re: Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 15:45 BST (UK) »
Just putting a link up to Jill's other post to avoid duplication of searches:

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,401779.0.html

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Re: Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 15:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Monica
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Re: Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 15:48 BST (UK) »
And this one, which is the one I meant to post  :P

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,401786.0.html

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Re: Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 21:21 BST (UK) »
I will ask the moderator to merge the 2 topics to prevent any further duplicated work
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Re: Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 07:57 BST (UK) »
Hi to all have responded to my inquiry re Wells Family. Thank You.

Sorry about the three different inquiries, I thought it would have been simpler to have each entry entered separate... I guess not.

Carol that is in fact the same John Smith AKA John Smith Wells.

It mentions journey man shoemaker, can you tell me of any available records I might look at to further investigate shoemakers of the time and area. Samuel snr was a shoemaker as well.

Jill
Wells-Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Carlyle -Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Underwood - Ruthwell,Dumfrieshire
Grierson - Ruthwell,Dumfrishire
O'Halloran- Limerick
Bryan (O'Brien)Limerick
Hawks/Hawkes - Staffordshire, England
Badgery - Staffordshire, England
Davis-  Cork- Ireland
Neville - Ireland
O'Toole - Limerick

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Re: Samuel Wells and second wife Agnes Carlyle
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 08:05 BST (UK) »
MAry Wells is listed as 42 on the 1851 census, what records may I look at to see what became of her?
Jill
Wells-Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Carlyle -Eaglesfield,Dumfrieshire
Underwood - Ruthwell,Dumfrieshire
Grierson - Ruthwell,Dumfrishire
O'Halloran- Limerick
Bryan (O'Brien)Limerick
Hawks/Hawkes - Staffordshire, England
Badgery - Staffordshire, England
Davis-  Cork- Ireland
Neville - Ireland
O'Toole - Limerick