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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 23:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Sylvia

I'm sorry that my research didn't help you, but yours has at least helped me! I didn't previously have George's marriage date to Ann WELCH, so that has bee a big bonus.

However i have somewhat garbled record that George married twice - the second time (or maybe it was the first time!) to Eleanor Unknown.

Can you tell me any thing more about 'my' George? For instance have you found the baptisms of any of his children - Mary Ann (1816), William (1817) or Susannah (1821)?

Any help you can provide from your records would, of course, be most welcome.

Kind regards

Philip

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 27 August 09 10:18 BST (UK) »
Hello Phil,

I have been digging around to see what I can come up with. Not much I am afraid, there are definitely connections with this Harding line and Mere and Stourton, Wiltshire. I think the Harding family in Somerset originate from Wiltshire. I know my line go back to Pewsey, Wiltshire.

I did find the children of Robert HARDING and Mary PHILLIPS. That Robert is shown as born Chinnock, Somerset, c1784. Children shown as William HARDING, born c1814, Chinnock and Elizabeth Phillips HARDING ,born c14/08/1821 Chinnock.

Robert is shown as a Yeoman Farmer.

There is a possible for him in the 1841 in Lamyatt, details given previously by Cat. I note that on the same page, there is a family of George WELCH, Yeoman and children also George, Mary Ann, etc. I can get the full details if you do not have them.

There is a Thomas HARDING in Brinkworth, Wilts on the 1841. He is a farmer and aged 52, born Wilts. Family is Grace HARDING, aged 42, Sarah, aged 20, Jane aged 17 and Ann aged 16. All born in county. Ref. HO107/1181/4. Page 1.

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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 27 August 09 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Phil, Rechecking info. of marriage of George and Ann I found from I.G.I. that it has 1800 for marriage so it would be better for you to check it. My date of 13/2/1809 was hand written so cannot confirm where I obtained info.
I.G.I. has Film No. 184797. Regards, Syljun
Connection of my Harding marrying into Welch family is Mere, Wilts.

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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 27 August 09 15:38 BST (UK) »
Hello Phil,

The Bruton PRs have a couple of entries which may be of interest to you. These are as follows;

Marriage between James HARDING of Wincanton and Elizabeth MUDGE 13/01/1794.

Baptism, 01/10/1794 Mary Mudge daughter of James and Elizabeth HARDING.

Baptism, 16/02/1807, Charles James, son of Charles and Margaret HARDING.

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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 27 August 09 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hello Phil,

There are some documents in the Somerset RO which give a hint of the Harding family living in these areas.

Lamyatt Deeds ref. D/DC/s.som/38/3    1746-1785.

1000 year lease and assigment of an unspecified plot assigned to Thos Baker, linen weaver of Lamyatt in 1746 and to James Harding of Greencombe, Milton Cleevedon in 1785.

West Quantoxhead Ref, DD/BR/ho/53    1765.

Contents- mortgage for £14,000 for the Manor of St Audries and West Quantoxhead, St Audries Farm and right of presentation to West Quantoxhead Church, the lower House and named lands by Richard Codrington of Bridgewater and Robert Balch of St Audries to James Harding of Mere, Wilts.

Now we need a volunteer to go and look at these in Taunton!

Jo.

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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 27 August 09 22:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jo

I'll have to mull over all this new information and see if anything presents itself as a possible solution.

Kind regards and thanks for all your help.

Phil

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« Reply #24 on: Saturday 29 August 09 20:30 BST (UK) »
Hello Phil,

I found another link to Mere and Bruton Harding families in the marriages in Bruton.

A marriage on 22/02/1731, Bruton, James HARDIN of Meere and Mary HIGGINS of Bruton.

Also, 02/09/1759. Joseph HARDING to Joan DODIMEAD.

There are some earlier ones if you want them.

Jo

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 31 August 09 22:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Phil,

I too have reached a Henry Harding (Hearding) brickwall.  Hope you don't mind if I try to explain??

Fenetta Hearding b. 1830 South Molton (ggggrandmother) married Richard Mardles in Exeter in 1851.

Her father is listed on marraige cert as Henry Hearding, cordwainer.  I cannot find him or Fenetta's mother or siblings if any ::)  There is a Henry Hearding b. 1834 South Molton, shoemaker in Wales Census in 1891.
Maybe he is Fenetta's brother?

Fenetta is the name that runs through the generations, many female decendants were given that name.

But here are some of the possible spellings, Finetta Harding buried 1706 Wiltshire
                                                                       Frances Finetta Harding buried 1743 Wiltshire

I don't know if those Finettas are related to MY Fenetta but it seems possible

Many spellings of Harding also, Hearding, Hardin....

Look at these interesting men found in the 1841 Census living in Cadbury, Devon:
   8) John Herding b. Devon 1826
       Thomas Herrding b. 1827

Yes thats the way the names are spelt on the Census ???

Maybe you might come across my Henry in your search.  I will keep your Hardings in mind as I search also.

One thing for sure, they are not very easily found :(

Maybe they are connected???

Where is Somerset in relation to Devon?

Kind Regards
Fenetta

 
London: CHELSEA;    Spriggs, Gaffney, Maher
Kent:      DOVER ;     Spriggs, Boulsbee
Devon:   EXETER;      Mardles, Hearding
Northamtonshire: OUNDLE; Spriggs, Weston
Berkshire:  READING; Spriggs

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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 19:21 BST (UK) »
I think this may be your Henry in 1861?

Henry Harding 37 Cordwainer South Molton South Devon
Mira 42 Dressmaker Blakeney Gloucestershire
Emma 14 Scholar Myrther South Wales
Fanette 7 Swansea South Wales
Elizabeth 5 Coleford, Gloucestershire
Mariah Helen 3 Coleford Gloucestershire

Newland Whitecliff, Coleford and Newland, Gloucestershire
RG9/3980 Folio 21 Page 36

I also saw him in Charles, Devon, in the 1841 census, a servant in the household of a farmer

Regards
Cat  :)
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