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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 21 February 10 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barbara

Something is not right with the surname  :-\ I am wondering whether in the English certs that you have, Margaret's original surname has got confused. I would imagine she had one of those surnames that was open to mistranscriptions which never helps  :-\

What was her father's occupation showing in her two marriage certs down in England?

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 21 February 10 20:26 GMT (UK) »
Also, could Margaret have cut off a few years off her age over the years? There is this entry in 1881 with a surname closer to what you have:

John Mallichar 55, Slipper Maker b. Ireland
Mary Mallichar 51 washerwoman, b. Edinburgh
Ellen Mallichar 14 lace spinner b. Edinburgh
Maggie Mallichar 12 b. Edinburgh
Andrew Mallichar 10 b. Edinburgh
John Inglis 4, grandson b. Edinburgh

Address: 4 Niddry Street, Canongate, Edinburgh

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 21 February 10 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Niddrie Street runns down the back of the North Bridge, which is on the turning from Princes Street.  You come up the Bridges, turn left onto the High Street and first right down Niddry Street......

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 21 February 10 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Lynda  :) Trying to track this family back in the censuses and it's a bit of a nightmare down to the surname.

I think this might be them in 1871 - everyone born in Edinburgh apart from John:

John Malhen 40 shoemaker b. Ireland
Mary Malhen 39
John Malhen 13
Alexander Malhen 9
Ellen Malhen 5
Marget Malhen 2

Address: 33 Saint Mary St, Canongate, Edinburgh

And perhaps in 1861 - not trusting much the ages I am seeing for John and Mary:

John Milhady 39, Marble Sawer b. Ireland
Mary Milhady 38
Mary Ann Milhady 11
John Milhady 3
Thomas Milhady 8 Months

Address: 21 Leith Wynd, Canongate, Edinburgh

Tried finding some of the birth of the children with just the batch codes on IGI but not yet seeing anything...... One of those surnames unfortunately  ;D

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 21 February 10 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica.... what aouit Mallen or Mallan

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 21 February 10 21:34 GMT (UK) »
Looking at anything remotely close on IGI but not seeing the children's entries as yet.

A possible entry in 1891 and perhaps a second marriage for John:

John Mallachan 63, Shoemaker (Unem) b. Edinburgh
Margaret Mallachan 59 b. Inverness
John Mallachan 19 b. Edinburgh

Address: 4 Niddry Street, Canongate, Edinburgh

.....and there I lose the trail!
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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 February 10 21:36 GMT (UK) »
There is this possible entry for example for the Thomas who shows 1861 as aged 8 months on IGI:

THOMAS MAILEY Birth:29 SEP 1860 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh
Parents: JOHN MAILEY and MARY FIHELEY

Not sure if we are getting warm and have to admit, I was hoping for a nice simple name for the possible mother Mary!
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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #16 on: Monday 22 February 10 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Oh wow!! how much information.  Thanks for your help.

Working back from 1911 census -

Thomas Coyne b. Armagh Ireland (second husband)
Margaret Coyne aged 37 yrs b. Scotland Edinburgh resident.
Thomas Coyne  1 year b. Blyth Nbld. 
Charles Johnson 10 years b. Gateshead Durham. (grandfather)
Mary E Johnson 8 years b. Gateshead Durham.

I know this is the correct family as I did know Thomas Coyne junior when I was young but did not know if he was half/step brother.

1901 Census - I have not found anything for this census in England.


We had always been told that my grandfather was born June 1900 but could never find anything.  When I eventually found marriage certs for Margaret I then searched under her maiden name and found the following birth.

Charles Mallachin b. 9th June 1899 in Gateshead workhouse to Margaret Mallachin a tobacconists asst. No fathers name.

Marriage cert dated 27th June 1904 Margaret Mallighan aged 33 years (1871) to Charles Johnson in Gateshead.  Father was John Mallighan (deceased) Labourer.  Charles Johnson Died September 1904!!!

Marriage cert dated 3rd March 1906 Margaret Johnson nee. Mallichan to Thomas Coyne at South Shields.  Father was John Mallichan (deceased) General labourer.

The different versions of the surname has not helped me find any information about Margaret and I  thought it was because she was Scottish and the accent was the cause of it when she was registering everything in England where the accent is Geordie!!!!!

Hopes this helps as to where all the different surnames came from.

Just going to try and digest all the information you chatters have come up with.

Barbara



 
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #17 on: Monday 22 February 10 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Sorry my last post was so long winded but I wanted to put down all the information.

I wonder if the 1881 family could be the correct family as mother Mary, daughter Ellen and Margaret had a daughter Mary Ellen (correct name as she was witness on my grandparents marr. cert.)

Barbara
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen